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Leon gets a little more than he bargained for in a toy factory (12/5/1)

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This is a little thematic. Oh, and this spoils Poppy Playtime Chapter 5, because it's the Prototype. Leave now if you do not want to be spoiled.

Rules​

  1. If you complain about being spoiled, I'm going to treat you like Leith treated Dr. Harley Sawyer.
  2. Speed Equalized
  3. Both are 9-B (This means Leon doesn't have a ******* rocket launcher)
  4. Battle takes place on the same moving train the Prototype chased the player
  5. Start 5 meters away with the Prototype on top of the train and Leon inside it.

Leon S. Kennedy: 12

The Prototype: 5

Inconclusive: 1
 
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Well, by Raccoon City's 1998 events, Leon is at his first day as a police officer, so he's got a very small experience
Without his reaction speed benefitting him as much and a 7 tier diff of LS, this is a matter of either Leon dodges all attacks and eventually shoots Prototype to death, or the latter pushes (or impales, as i think it's more common from reading Prototype's profile) Leon once, who just gets murdered

Think there are some space for arguments in favor of Leon, but so far i'm siding way more with Prototype here
 
I mean what's stopping...
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Just to be sure, is Leon like actively aware that the Prototype is above him and can break the glass to stab him? Because I'm pretty sure at some point he will catch him.
 
Just to be sure, is Leon like actively aware that the Prototype is above him and can break the glass to stab him? Because I'm pretty sure at some point he will catch him.
Even since he doesn't, their AP is close enough that just being hit by the legs will hurt but not kill. And he's got healing.

It's when he's outside he's actually gotta be worried since the Prototype is kind of just an RE boss fight in how he fights. Impalement or Restrain into Impalement is the go-to when he can see a human-sized enemy.
 
Even since he doesn't, their AP is close enough that just being hit by the legs will hurt but not kill. And he's got healing.

It's when he's outside he's actually gotta be worried since the Prototype is kind of just an RE boss fight in how he fights. Impalement or Restrain into Impalement is the go-to when he can see a human-sized enemy.
Is Leon more likely to just stay inside and wait for the Prototype or go outside and face him?
 
Is Leon more likely to just stay inside and wait for the Prototype or go outside and face him?
I don't know enough about Resident Evil, it's why I made this match. I can't just declare a winner in my head with ease.
 
Just to be sure, is Leon like actively aware that the Prototype is above him and can break the glass to stab him? Because I'm pretty sure at some point he will catch him.
per SBA they start with a line of sight of each other

Even since he doesn't, their AP is close enough that just being hit by the legs will hurt but not kill. And he's got healing.
He'll just have to get really creative to get un-pinned by the LS diff.
Speaking of if, is there any instance where we see what does he do to the target after getting them pinned? Or is he just one-shotting everyone via piercing damage and the targets don't appear anymore?

Is Leon more likely to just stay inside and wait for the Prototype or go outside and face him?
2nd option, he faces several bosses by doing basically this
 
Speaking of if, is there any instance where we see what does he do to the target after getting them pinned? Or is he just one-shotting everyone via piercing damage and the targets don't appear anymore?
I'd guess he just eats them? Since like most of the other ones, the death animation is you being pulled to their mouth ig.
2nd option, he faces several bosses by doing basically this
Essentially he's kinda cooked.
 
I just wanna point out that Leon's first key still has 9-A (0.023 tons) durability.
 
Jesus that didn't take long

Your reasoning?
That leon is pretty inexperienced. The only really crazy things he takes out in the game using his own self and equipment is the first form and final form of birkin an mr x. And he uses a rocket launcher on mr x. So I would say the only really crazy things he takes out on his own with his equipment is the final form of birkin, though I could hear an argument that that’s enough. (Keep in mind I’ve only played the remake, which I’m pretty sure is mostly similar in these aspects)
 
That leon is pretty inexperienced. The only really crazy things he takes out in the game using his own self and equipment is the first form and final form of birkin an mr x. And he uses a rocket launcher on mr x. So I would say the only really crazy things he takes out on his own with his equipment is the final form of birkin, though I could hear an argument that that’s enough. (Keep in mind I’ve only played the remake, which I’m pretty sure is mostly similar in these aspects)
Dunno how to tell you this but uh...
 
Dunno how to tell you this but uh...
What? I know we’re talking about og re2, right? Does leon take down any of the bosses in a significantly different way in the original or something?
 
Actually checking the values on their profiles, apparently leon has 2/3 the physical strength of the prototype, and over 5x the durability. I guess put me under leon then
 
Actually checking the values on their profiles, apparently leon has 2/3 the physical strength of the prototype, and over 5x the durability. I guess put me under leon then
As i've said before, unless you prove that Leon can do this hitless, He's getting pinned to the floor and due to a 7-tiers-gap of LS he's staying there forever lol
 
What? I know we’re talking about og re2, right? Does leon take down any of the bosses in a significantly different way in the original or something?
Yeah, uh... If you count both routes since both are equally canon, Leon fights all the bosses.



He also does so in Darkside Chronicles. Just gonna drop it here since the profile seems to treat it as a canon retelling.
As i've said before, unless you prove that Leon can do this hitless, He's getting pinned to the floor and due to a 7-tiers-gap of LS he's staying there forever lol
Prototype mostly relies on piercing damage and his superior LS.
I mean, all of the guys Leon beat has piercing damage and much higher LS too. The alligator at least is 100% hitless since it can oneshot him.
I'd guess he just eats them? Since like most of the other ones, the death animation is you being pulled to their mouth ig.
He canonically didn't eat Player. Just impaled them and dropped them into poppy gel. Did the same to CatNap, Huggy, and Missy.
2nd option, he faces several bosses by doing basically this
Not all the time. PP train section instantly reminded me of that one part where Birkin was on top stabbing through the roof of the train.
Essentially he's kinda cooked.
I mean, he kinda had to leave the train for those instances because
1. Ada was inside and was injured so he had to keep the enemy out.
2. Limited space to escape or dodge attacks if the enemy managed to get in.
 
I mean, all of the guys Leon beat has piercing damage and much higher LS too. The alligator at least is 100% hitless since it can oneshot him.
LS to the same level of The Prototype? Highly doubt it, considering his fighting style is literally just pinning his enemy.
He canonically didn't eat Player. Just impaled them and dropped them into poppy gel. Did the same to CatNap, Huggy, and Missy.
Because there's an actual reason for it. The poppy gel he was thrown in is a gel used in the attempt to revive dead living beings. Despite it not working on a dead rat, this document does state it would have different results for different sizes:
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The player is later shown to be fine despite them getting stabbed by The Prototype. My guess is that he intended into turning the player into a toy, so he threw him in it to keep him preserved. Considering he does say "Shall we see what you look like, wrongside out?"

He still has killed people and would likely do so to Leon, as he used humans remains for his parts.
I mean, he kinda had to leave the train for those instances because
1. Ada was inside and was injured so he had to keep the enemy out.
2. Limited space to escape or dodge attacks if the enemy managed to get in.
The train in the game is also limited in space, and him waiting wouldn't help, as that train does have an end where it will crash.
 
LS to the same level of The Prototype? Highly doubt it, considering his fighting style is literally just pinning his enemy.
They're still Class 10 while Leon is Peak Human.
He still has killed people and would likely do so to Leon, as he used humans remains for his parts.
Yeah, but he hasn't been shown to eat them. He doesn't even need to because of Self-Sustenance.
The train in the game is also limited in space, and him waiting wouldn't help, as that train does have an end where it will crash.
So you're saying the arena ***** Leon over either way and that this is a stomp?
 
They're still Class 10 while Leon is Peak Human.

Yeah, but he hasn't been shown to eat them. He doesn't even need to because of Self-Sustenance.

So you're saying the arena ***** Leon over either way and that this is a stomp?
To be fair he can jump off with basic situational awareness on what's coming, he just then has to kill the giant Superhuman spider cyborg thing trying outright to murder him if that hasn't already happened.
 
They're still Class 10 while Leon is Peak Human.
Yes. But the difference here is even bigger than I don't think it's fair to use that example.
Yeah, but he hasn't been shown to eat them. He doesn't even need to because of Self-Sustenance.
His killing animation is eating. He doesn't really need to, but that doesn't mean he can't, or possibly he just bites to kill.
So you're saying the arena ***** Leon over either way and that this is a stomp?
No one said Leon couldn't just jump before the train crashes. It will still force him either way to fight the Prototype face-to-face.
 
Yeah Leon beat guys who had higher LS than him, and higher AP than this dude while being in closed spaces. If this guy manage to hit Leon, he still has a x10 Dura value compared to his own AP, can heal himself with herbs, and blud even survived to the end of the game while pierced with a bullet.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think this dude is something worse than Mr. X to face
 
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Yeah Leon beat guys who had higher LS than him,
Not really to the same level as the Prototype. I do still have to question the fighting style of Leon's opponents, considering the Prototype goes for pinning his enemies with LS, but does Leon's opponents do that? Because if not, then that's not really much of an argument against him.
and higher AP than this dude while being in closed spaces.
The Prototype doesn't really just jump inside the train. He just breaks through the windows to stab the player. I don't recall the Prototype actually entering inside the train itself.
If this guy manage to hit Leon, he still has a x10 Dura value compared to his own AP, can heal himself with herbs,
I don't think it would work the same with a piercing attack.
and blud even survived to the end of the game while pierced with a bullet.
That's stamina and endurance ngl.
M1911 go BRRR
The Prototype used his smoke from afar when he was still above him in the train. I don't think a gun is going to work here.
 
The Prototype used his smoke from afar when he was still above him in the train. I don't think a gun is going to work here.
That just means Leon has to leave that train car and run the other one.
 
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