Naruto Uzumaki and Sasuke Uchiha vs Ryomen Sukuna [0-7-0]

[MochOath]

sukuna vs kaguya next

Naruto Uzumaki (Post-Sasuke Retrieval) and Sasuke Uchiha (Sasuke Retrieval)

Attack Potency(Both): >92.9 Tons, 53.15 Megatons with Rasengan and Chidori
Durability(Both): >92.9 Tons
Lifting Strength(Both): 100 Metric tons


Ryomen Sukuna (2/3 Fingers)

Attack Potency: >58.4 Tons physically
Durability: >58.4 Tons
Lifting Strength: 2.45 Metric Tons

Naruto's Kyūbi Influence, One-Tailed Kyūbi Cloak, and Vermilion Rasengan are Restricted
Sasuke's Three-Tomoe Sharingan, CS1, and CS2 are Restricted
Speed is Equalized

Protagonist and Deuteragonist:
Antagonist: MinatoSparkle, AigerTheKing, Catpija, Robo432343, Buraqibear, Friedoil11, Nonynho
Inconclusive:

 

[MochOath]

the rasengan and chidori miiiight be too strong...

 

[Pluto321]

following

 

[Robo432343]

domain expansion gg

 

[DavidTPPM]

domain expansion gg

Naruto pointing at his clone from outside the domain as it starts disappearing:

 

[Buraqibear]

Sukuna Domain Diffs fr

 

[Arkenis]

Since you've restricted basically everything that makes them stomp, how do they survive if Sukuna decides to Domain just before either decides to one shot?

 

[Catbowtie]

Can TS even restrict Kyubi? If Naruto doesn't have conscious control over the amp, then it can't be restricted.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Ngl I don't see how are Naruto and Sasuke losing. Trapping them in a domain is going to be difficult as is thanks to stealth mastery and speed amps. Sukuna will have to deal with stuff like sharingan precog and chidori blitzing at the same time as 50 clones almost twice as strong as Sukuna jumping his ass.

And if he does catch them Naruto just punches through it with a rasengan that is like 1000x above Sukunas AP.

They're both nearly impossible to hit, physically stronger, can one-shot, can amp their speed, and have a massive numbers advantage.

 

[Arkenis]

Trapping them in a domain is going to be difficult

its an open domain and bare minimum dozens of meters in diameter or just scales to his 15f self, 200m.

 

[Buraqibear]

Ngl I don't see how are Naruto and Sasuke losing. Trapping them in a domain is going to be difficult as is thanks to stealth mastery and speed amps.

I highly doubt that'll be a big problem at all, the moment they get in range to attack he traps them in his Domain and shreds them or just uses an open barrier one to create a deathzone for both of em

Sukuna will have to deal with stuff like sharingan precog and chidori blitzing at the same time as 50 clones almost twice as strong as Sukuna jumping his ass.

Again, no blitzing is gonna be happening here. Sharingan can't see layered invisible attacks and the clones would just get one shot by dismantles.

 

[DavidTPPM]

its an open domain and bare minimum dozens of meters in diameter or just scales to his 15f self, 200m.

Would that really matter here? I honestly don't see him even activating it due to the constant jumping with a never ending threat of a one shot attack.

Also range-wise 200 meters isn't that problematic for Nard and Sauce here. Even just Naruto spamming clones would probably fill out a larger area.

I highly doubt that'll be a big problem at all, the moment they get in range to attack he traps them in his Domain and shreds them or just uses an open barrier one to create a deathzone for both of em

Since when does Sukuna open with a domain? Especially so fast the opponent can't even attack him with a blitz amp

Again, no blitzing is gonna be happening here. Sharingan can't see layered invisible attacks and the clones would just get one shot by dismantles.

Actually he does see them.

Enhanced Senses (1-layer; Invisibility & Vision - The Sharingan…

And the clones getting one shot is fine. They're primarily used for diversion. Sukuna will one shot 500 clones and suddenly get his back filled with a rasengan.

 

[MochOath]

Since you've restricted basically everything that makes them stomp, how do they survive if Sukuna decides to Domain just before either decides to one shot?

i think naruto's immense pain tolerance + low regen + ~2x dura advantage should prevent him from being oneshot, even if hes still getting slashed up

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It's pretty much a race to see who pulls off their wincon faster. If Naruto lands a Rasengan, he's obliterating Sukuna's whole body, and if Sasuke lands a Chidori to the chest, Sukuna will be nerfed for a bit and give them time to jump tf out of him. And if Sukuna activates Malevolent Shrine, they're probably cooked. Even though they are stronger than him, that's only compared to his physicals, and it's still less than a 2x difference. Dismantle (which is above his physicals) barely cut Ryu, while Cleave one shot him, so Cleaves are definitely gonna be doing good damage to them, letalone hundreds slicing them endlessly. And they're not getting hundreds of meters away before they're fatally injured, even with Shunshin.

It does depend, but I lean towards Sukuna winning. It's just easier for him to make a handsign then for them to land a very forecasted attack. Chidori being a massive speed amp does help, but honestly Chidori isn't particularly a guarantee of victory due to RCT. Malevolent Shrine also counters shadow clones pretty hard.

 

[Arkenis]

Would that really matter here? I honestly don't see him even activating it due to the constant jumping with a never ending threat of a one shot attack.

Also range-wise 200 meters isn't that problematic for Nard and Sauce here. Even just Naruto spamming clones would probably fill out a larger area.

Yes it matters very much. He can activate it whenever he wants, its not some complex set up. Please show me when Naruto spammed clones to fill out a 400m diameter.

Since when does Sukuna open with a domain? Especially so fast the opponent can't even attack him with a blitz amp

If he senses DENSE ass energy in Naruto and Sasuke's palm, he's activating it. And even then, in a short fight, he used it on a fingerbearer. And domains blitz as well, but here, it won't even matter soon as he activates it'll target and cleave them.

 

[MochOath]

It's pretty much a race to see who pulls off their wincon faster. If Naruto lands a Rasengan, he's obliterating Sukuna's whole body, and if Sasuke lands a Chidori to the chest, Sukuna will be nerfed for a bit and give them time to jump tf out of him. And if Sukuna activates Malevolent Shrine, they're probably cooked. Even though they are stronger than him, that's only compared to his physicals, and it's still less than a 2x difference. Dismantle (which is above his physicals) barely cut Ryu, while Cleave one shot him, so Cleaves are definitely gonna be doing good damage to them, letalone hundreds slicing them endlessly. And they're not getting hundreds of meters away before they're fatally injured, even with Shunshin.

It does depend, but I lean towards Sukuna winning. It's just easier for him to make a handsign then for them to land a very forecasted attack. Chidori being a massive speed amp does help, but honestly Chidori isn't particularly a guarantee of victory due to RCT. Malevolent Shrine also counters shadow clones pretty hard.

counted

 

[AigerTheKing]

Sukuna FRA

 

[Catpija]

Sukuna FRA

 

[SlendVeny]

Naruto pointing at his clone from outside the domain as it starts disappearing:

Naruto lowkey might jump in there like he did with Haku's ice mirrors

 

[MochOath]

Sukuna FRA

Sukuna FRA

FRA chain already
but both counted

 

[Robo432343]

Sukuna FRA

 

[Foriaa]

Barely any discussion had and there's already 5 votes

 

[Buraqibear]

Would that really matter here? I honestly don't see him even activating it due to the constant jumping with a never ending threat of a one shot attack.

Dude he just has to put his hands together, it's not that tough to open his Domain

Also range-wise 200 meters isn't that problematic for Nard and Sauce here. Even just Naruto spamming clones would probably fill out a larger area.

Sukuna would open his Domain when Naruto and Sasuke are in range, and considering they like fighting H2H, it wouldn't be very difficult to catch them in a close or open barrier domain

Since when does Sukuna open with a domain? Especially so fast the opponent can't even attack him with a blitz amp

He's a smart guy, if he knows he is outmatched he'll obviously use his strongest attack. All sorcerers and curses are pretty quick to pull out their domains if everything else they have doesn't work or are at a big disadvantage.

And the clones getting one shot is fine. They're primarily used for diversion. Sukuna will one shot 500 clones and suddenly get his back filled with a rasengan.

Sukuna doesn't have tunnel vision. Do Naruto and Sasuke have a counter to Curse Manipulation? It takes mere seconds for it to start going into effect

 

[DavidTPPM]

Dude he just has to put his hands together, it's not that tough to open his Domain

Okay bro let's do it like this.

Me and 10 of my buddies much faster and twice as strong as you are going to be jumping your shit and you try to wave a handsign in between.

Sukuna would open his Domain when Naruto and Sasuke are in range, and considering they like fighting H2H, it wouldn't be very difficult to catch them in a close or open barrier domain

As far as I remember Sukuna here only uses domains either when necessary or as finishers to flex.
It's honestly more likely Sasuke blitzes him with a chidori as an opener than Sukuna starting with a domain.

And if it closes around then rasengan out.

He's a smart guy, if he knows he is outmatched he'll obviously use his strongest attack. All sorcerers and curses are pretty quick to pull out their domains if everything else they have doesn't work or are at a big disadvantage.

And how would he know that until it's too late?
And how would it even hit? Naruto and Sasuke are shunshin blitzing away the second a menacingly looking barrier starts appearing. Hell Naruto might sneakily dig under ground like he did against Neji.

Sukuna doesn't have tunnel vision.

You don't need tunel vision to not get confused by 50 different people jumping your ass.
And Naruto is a god at stealth when it comes to hiding among clones and making you think a clone is real

Do Naruto and Sasuke have a counter to Curse Manipulation? It takes mere seconds for it to start going into effect

Sukuna isn't hitting them to begin with. Nard hides among clones and Sauce sharingan precog negs.

Anyway I'm clearly not stopping a FRA train that started before any actual discussion happened. The intent here is clear and I ain't wasting my time on this any more

 

[Qurbonboev]

Me and 10 of my buddies much faster and twice as strong as you are going to be jumping your shit and you try to wave a handsign in between.

Fun fact: Sukuna reaction speed is currently relativistic in wiki(and reaction speed in this case includes handsighs). So if we he wants to cast domain, duo wouldn't be able to do anything to stop him from it

 

[Robo432343]

sukuna solos the verse gang

 

[Buraqibear]

Okay bro let's do it like this.

Me and 10 of my buddies much faster and twice as strong as you are going to be jumping your shit and you try to wave a handsign in between.

Won't matter if said buddies are glass cannon's and I can destroy them by having them in my line of sight (dismantle)

As far as I remember Sukuna here only uses domains either when necessary or as finishers to flex.

And it's gonna be necessary here. He also used Domain very early on in the fight against Gojo too, before he even took any serious damage

It's honestly more likely Sasuke blitzes him with a chidori as an opener than Sukuna starting with a domain.

Chidori is a piercing attack, isn't it? Sukuna isn't dying from that unless he targets Sukuna's brain, which Sasuke isn't known to instantly do, Sukuna can also use cleave on his head if he does that, killing him while receiving negligible damage himself

And if it closes around then rasengan out.

Kid Naruto doesn't just say Rasengan and whip it out now, does he? He'd get killed before he charges it up

And how would he know that until it's too late?

Because he isn't gonna die unless they blow his head off with a rasengan or chidori?

And how would it even hit? Naruto and Sasuke are shunshin blitzing away the second a menacingly looking barrier starts appearing. Hell Naruto might sneakily dig under ground like he did against Neji.

Considering it could hit against people who had knowledge and preparation for it beforehand, I don't think it should be an issue for Sukuna to hit Naruto and Sasuke with it

You don't need tunel vision to not get confused by 50 different people jumping your ass.

This is Sukuna we're talking about, not some guy who started fighting yesterday. He has experience getting jumped by people and managing them just fine

And Naruto is a god at stealth when it comes to hiding among clones and making you think a clone is real

Lets see, the shadow clones have one-shot durability and can't spawn on someone while Sukuna can spam wide radius slashes at a distance effortlessly, hmm, I wonder how he'll manage them

Sukuna isn't hitting them to begin with. Nard hides among clones and Sauce sharingan precog negs.

That's not an argument, Sukuna can spam dismantle, speed is equalized, Naruto CAN'T see Dismantle and Sasuke would only kill him if he instantly goes for the head with Chidori.

Anyway I'm clearly not stopping a FRA train that started before any actual discussion happened. The intent here is clear and I ain't wasting my time on this any more

I don't like FRA trains like this either, but in this case, considering Naruto and Sasuke have no counter to curse manipulation or Domain unless if you blow Naruto and Sasuke's shown capabilities way out of proportion while being disingenuous to Sukuna's.

Put my vote for Sukuna.

 

[Buraqibear]

Fun fact: Sukuna reaction speed is currently relativistic in wiki(and reaction speed in this case includes handsighs). So if we he wants to cast domain, duo wouldn't be able to do anything to stop him from it

Dawg 2-3 finger Sukuna is being used here

sukuna solos the verse gang

I feel like I've seen that pfp somewhere...

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Idk about the duo winning this one tbh...

Naruto and Sasuke are gonna need to basically statue sukuna in order for him not to use domain, once domain starts the sure hit effect would negate any speed advantage they would have while the constant piercing attacks from all angles rips them apart


I'm not even sure if rasengan/chidori is a valid wincon. Sukuna is more than capable of healing his vital organs, if they hit him on the chest and blow a hole through him then he just uses RCT to regenerate

If it was just normal shrine I could see the duo having a much easier time but domain really makes me lean towards sukuna here

 

[Friedoil11]

I'm voting Sukuna FRA

 

[MochOath]

if Naruto or one of his 100 clones hits Sukuna, hes getting his torso deleted at best, or his whole body splattered at worse by an attack ~1 million times above his durability

Sukuna has RCT, but he'll be debilitated if Sasuke blitzes him with Chidori in the stomach due to it being the source of a sorcer's cursed energy

i think one of the Narutos or Sasuke is more likely to hit Sukuna before he pops domain, especially since hes against 2 children with non-sorcerer levels of CE

 

[MochOath]

Sukuna FRA

Put my vote for Sukuna.

I'm voting Sukuna FRA

all counted

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don't like FRA trains like this either, but in this case, considering Naruto and Sasuke have no counter to curse manipulation

Wdym curse manipulation?

 

[Nonynho]

Voting Sukuna FRA

 

[Arkenis]

i think one of the Narutos or Sasuke is more likely to hit Sukuna before he pops domain, especially since hes against 2 children with non-sorcerer levels of CE

Sorcerers won't take characters lightly just cuz they have low ce. If someone's showing good skill, relative speed and high energy output it'll be viewed as a threat like any other character with energy sensing or EYES would.

 

[MochOath]

Sorcerers won't take characters lightly just cuz they have low ce. If someone's showing good skill, relative speed and high energy output it'll be viewed as a threat like any other character with energy sensing or EYES would.

i was looking at it more from the lens of Sukuna taking interest in them due to their low CE, as he did with Maki, and their strength despite their lack of experience, as he did with Higuruma

Voting Sukuna FRA

counted (and starting grace)

 

[Arkenis]

i was looking at it more from the lens of Sukuna taking interest in them due to their low CE, as he did with Maki, and their strength despite their lack of experience, as he did with Higuruma

That'd make sense if they were sorcerers but they aren't; Maki's got zero ce and Higuruma was someone he took an interest in just to see his jujutsu skill not overall skill. Sukuna can decide he doesn't care about someone's skill and go for the kill like he did Kashimo. Also while I agree Naruto and Sasuke are skilled, you've limited what makes them interesting in Part 1 so Sukuna being interested in a couple kids flipping around and cloning themselves or breathing fire won't cut it.

 

[Buraqibear]

Wdym curse manipulation?

Attacks with CE curse people without it

 

[SlendVeny]

i think one of the Narutos or Sasuke is more likely to hit Sukuna before he pops domain, especially since hes against 2 children with non-sorcerer levels of CE

I feel like he could maybe sense that there's some kind of being inside Naruto, no?

 

[Arkenis]

Think that's grace? Please never make matches where a characters whole kit is restricted in one key.