KPop Demon Hunters vs Predacons (7-4-0) (Grace)

[Drite77]

People are spamming them, so I might try it myself '-'

HUNTR/X: 7 (Drite77, Doggo, AigerTheKing, MannyQ361, ABoogieYesSir, Naito-desu, ByArrow)

• 3 members
• All scale to 0.0087899 Tons of TNT
• LS of 0.649 Tons

Predacons (Issue 4-7 members): 4 (ShockingPsychic, AyOgUyS, Ms.Luzifer, Arkenis)

• 6 members
• Heights for every Predacon present
• Waspinator scales to 0.0034144 Tons of TNT and has an LS of 18.09 Tons
• Scorponok and Tarantulas scale to 0.0056301 Tons of TNT and have an LS of >18.09 Tons
• Terrorsaur scales to >0.0056301 Tons of TNT via one shotting someone that scales to 0.0034144 Tons of TNT and has an LS of >18.09 Tons
• Megatron scales to >>0.0056301 Tons of TNT via one shotting someone that scales to 0.0056301 Tons of TNT and has an LS of At least 36.18 Tons, likely 54.27 Tons
• Skold scales to >>>0.0056301 Tons of TNT via being stronger then Megatron and has an LS of At least 54.27 Tons

Speed is equalized, initially restricting Soul Power for the KPop Demon Hunters, fight happens in the Central Park with the teams being 10 meters apart, SBA for the rest and hopefully this is not a stomp '-'

 

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[Drite77]

I'll give a bit more time before syaing what I think, not happy when I have to do it when I created a the thread, but if I don't things might not move foward '-'

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I think this is gonna be very hard for the girls. There are six opponents, all of whom are only slightly weaker than themselves. They also get outclasses in LS. I cannot say for certain how skilled they are, but they seem like they know what they're doing.

Voting the Predacons. I don't think HUNTR/X really have any solid advantages except AP/Dura, and I don't think that'll be enough

 

[Drite77]

So, let's analyze the Predacons and how much of a threat they are to them individually:

Spoiler: Waspinator

Waspinator is there for moral support, he is the weakest among the Predacons, the Girls hold a 2.5x AP advantage and Waspinator lacks any type of major skill feats. He, much like all of them, holds a significant LS advantage, but he wouldn't try to disarm them in any way. In every major fight he was (3 in the limited run) he is the first to go out and never does anything, even in a numerical advantage, so the 3 could likely take him out without problems

Spoiler: Scorponok and Tarantulas

Scorponok and Tarantulas are in the same boat, they are smart but lack any actual skill showings, but unlike Waspinator, they are at least not shown to be incompetent during a fight... Most of the time '-'. The girls also hold the AP advantage against both at 1.56x, it is likely not as easy to take them out as Waspinator, but honestly, not impossible as I assume these girls have been fighting together and have great chemistry when doing so (I've never watched the movie), Tarantulas also has a small issue I'll tackle later

Spoiler: Terrorsaur

Then there is Terrosaur, Terrosaur is likely not that below them in terms of AP, as he scales above the previous two guys, but I would still give them the AP advantage here. Much like the above, he lacks skill showings, but he has another problem I'll tackle later.

Spoiler: Megatron and Skold

Skold and Megatron are the biggest threats to the trio, no questions asked. Megatron scales a bit above Terrorsaur via one shotting bots who are close to baseline 9-A, that should probably make him at least comparable to the Trio, Megatron is also, unlike the previous 4, very skilled, as he was able to discover a fault in Dinobot's fighting style seconds after they started fighting (They fought for only a few panels), before taking advantage of it, it is not unlikely he could do the same against the Trio. Megatron's favourite move is to chomp enemies with his Trex head to try to cut them apart (Both in robot and beast mode), which I believe wouldn't kill them much like it didn't kill Optimus or Dinobot

Skold scales even higher then Megatron and is also very skilled, as she goes toe to toe with Rhinox who is about comparable to Optimus Primal, which had many fights where he best Megatron in skill and tactics during combat. Skold's biggest problem is that she is merciful, it is unlikely she would try to kill the Trio. Skold is also an artist and I think she would be at least interested by the Girl's singing

Spoiler: Back Stabbing, in-fighting and ego

Having said that, there is also one thing worth noting about the Predacons, they are not great team members to each other. Waspinator and Scorponok are the only ones who are not going to try to do anything with the others, Tarantulas is a schemer and follows his own agenda, but I believe he is not working with the Vok yet so he wouldn't back stab the Predacons just yet, but I can see him just running away if the fight is going even the smidgest of wrongs. Terrorsaur is both a nuisance to Megatron and Skold. Terrorsaur will see this chance to kill Megatron and take control over the Predacons, which would lead to in fighting if his plan fails. He would probably even get mad at Skold for likely enjoying the Girl's singing and, while the circunstances where a bit more extreme in the story, Skold killed Terrorsaur because he got on her nerves.

It is also very likely that only Skold and Waspinator take the fight seriously, the girls are much smaller then them and they are not Cybertronians, the other 4 all have their own superiority complexes, Scorponok likes to boast about his abilities, Tarantulas will take a while to note how intelligent he is, Terrorsaur considers himself the best Predacon to lead them and will hardly take orders from others, and Megatron doesn't even take the Maximals seriously, let alone 3 small organic life forms. I would also note that, despite having the range advantage, all the Predacons enjoy fighting at close range, and only Waspinator has shown fighting at range (And that ended with him getting decked for a second time during a fight)

Spoiler: KPop Advantages

As commented above, baring 2 of them, they should outskill every single one of the Predacons, while Skold and Megatron can match them, with Megatron being able to identify errors within their fighting styles and Skold being able to match them in CQC. Their acrobacies (Which I assume is decent as the video is blocked in my country) is also a problem for everyone, but Megatron and Skold, Cheetor was able to keep Waspinator, Scorponok and Terrorsaur all busy by himself due to his acrobacy, one of the girls can Teleport, so I assume that would help even more on it (I'll note Cheetor didn't even know the Predacons, he just decided to keep 3 of them busy by himself, which I believe wouldn't be hard for the girls to do it either). They also hold the AP advantage on the majority of the Predacons, but I do believe both Megatron and Skold might be slightly stronger then them due to the scaling chain

Spoiler: Final Thoughts

I think this is much closer then one might imagine due to how much the Predacons just dislike each other, the only one who doesn't hate anybody is Waspinator. Scorponok, Waspinator and Terrorsaur can all be kept busy by a single member of the Girls, as I stated above, Tarantulas wouldn't put much of a fight (If he just doesn't decide to run mid way through), Megatron and Skold should be able to hold on a 2v2 if Megatron takes them seriously, but that is, of course, counting on the fact Terrorsaur doesn't try to back stab Megatron, which I will find very likely in this scenario, one might say he would wait for at least 1 or 2 of them to be defeated, but he is not particularly smart, many of the Predacons will either gank Terrorsaur because they don't like him or to not face Megatron's wrath for treason.

There are a lot of variables, with Teleport, I think Rumi might be able to defeat both Waspinator, Scorponok and Terrorsaur on her own, but not without taking some damage before hand. Tarantulas is easily dealt with while Skold and Megatron could likely win against Zoey and Mira, not so confident about the 3 together, specially if Terrorsaur does a sneak attack on Megatron during the scuffle while I assume the other two would at least wait for Rumi to deal with the 3 Predacons before helping them with the rest, or would even help her.

I initially wrote this thinking the Predacons would win, but looking back at just how useless Waspinator is, how someone who has decent mobility can likely keep half of them busy, how there is one that will try to backstab and likely create infighting during the battle and someone who likely will just run. It is a glorified 2v3 with both sides not in their 100%, and more often then not, I believe the Girls can likely pull through this. Their Info Analysis and Regeneration would likely not matter much here as well.

Now I go to sleep, peace

 

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[Doggo]

Ok, given how small the AP gap is, and the fact that some match the girls in skill, makes this a fairly easy win for the Decepticons, probably bordering on a stomp. Like 3 v 6 is very difficult when the other side arent that much weaker and getting grabbed once means death.

 

[Drite77]

Ok, given how small the AP gap is, and the fact that some match the girls in skill, makes this a fairly easy win for the Decepticons, probably bordering on a stomp. Like 3 v 6 is very difficult when the other side arent that much weaker and getting grabbed once means death.

Did you read some of my points about the in-fight and problems within the Predacons? Only 2 of them can match the girls, the rest are very much unskilled.

"Grabbed once means death" is not exactly true, only Megatrons implements grabs with his dinossaur head, the rest of them are strikers and rarely try to grab their opponents

 

[Doggo]

Did you read some of my points about the in-fight and problems within the Predacons? Only 2 of them can match the girls, the rest are very much unskilled.

"Grabbed once means death" is not exactly true, only Megatrons implements grabs with his dinossaur head, the rest of them are strikers and rarely try to grab their opponents

Yeah, I did. Even if only two of them are skilled, the other guys will provide decent backup. It's like pitting 3 boxers vs 2 boxers, but the latter is supported by 4 less skilled goons. Still very much in favor of the Predacons here. Besides, most of Huntrixx's fight scenes are them stomping hordes of demons, we never actually see how well they will do against a larger group that isn't far behind them in power.


fair one the last part ig.

 

[Drite77]

Yeah, I did. Even if only two of them are skilled, the other guys will provide decent backup. It's like pitting 3 boxers vs 2 boxers, but the latter is supported by 4 less skilled goons. Still very much in favor of the Predacons here. Besides, most of Huntrixx's fight scenes are them stomping hordes of demons, we never actually see how well they will do against a larger group that isn't far behind them in power.


fair one the last part ig.

I don't know if I provide the scans but like I said before, 3 of them can be kept under bay by a single one of them.

In their first encounter against the Maximals (The Autobots descendants in this case), Optimus Primal kept Megatron busy, Rhinox kept Skold busy and Cheetor dealt with Scorponok, Waspinator and Terrorsaur by being heavily acrobatic.

It is worth noting none of them tried to help either Skold or Megatron in that case and were heavily focused on Cheetor, I assume the girls (Specially the one who can teleport) wouldn't be far behind Cheetor's acrobatic skills, and they are stronger then him, so taking out them would be easier.

There is also the in-fighting and back stabbing problem some of the Predacons have, Terrorsaur was trying to get Megatron killed in the above engagement and, like I said before, Tarantulas is not fully loyal to Megatron either

 

[Doggo]

I don't know if I provide the scans but like I said before, 3 of them can be kept under bay by a single one of them.

In their first encounter against the Maximals (The Autobots descendants in this case), Optimus Primal kept Megatron busy, Rhinox kept Skold busy and Cheetor dealt with Scorponok, Waspinator and Terrorsaur by being heavily acrobatic.

It is worth noting none of them tried to help either Skold or Megatron in that case and were heavily focused on Cheetor, I assume the girls (Specially the one who can teleport) wouldn't be far behind Cheetor's acrobatic skills, and they are stronger then him, so taking out them would be easier.

There is also the in-fighting and back stabbing problem some of the Predacons have, Terrorsaur was trying to get Megatron killed in the above engagement and, like I said before, Tarantulas is not fully loyal to Megatron either

Ig that works

Voting for my cousin's favorite film

 

[AigerTheKing]

Hunter X FRA

 

[Drite77]

I'll update tbe votes once I'm home

 

[AyOgUyS]

predacons fra

 

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[Ruby_R_Dracula]

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[MannyQ361]

Voting Demon Hunters fra.

 

[Arkenis]

"Grabbed once means death" is not exactly true, only Megatrons implements grabs with his dinossaur head, the rest of them are strikers and rarely try to grab their opponents

LS isn't only grabbing, if they get into a back and forth with their weapons or just arms the girls will be pushed and even have their weapons broken. Class 25 to 100 is disgusting here, the girls are gonna keep being blown back and even if you think the girls are more skilled, I don't see how close combat will be anything but one sided for the cons.

What even are the girls win cons here? There spiritual stuff won't be much here and I think the girls could be held back by Rumi if she loses hope mid fight.

 

[Drite77]

if they get into a back and forth with their weapons or just arms the girls will be pushed and even have their weapons broken

Once again, they are mostly strikers, and 4/6 out of them haven't shown any type of skill in CQC, I don't see how they would have their weapons broken either, if the girls hit them they are not going to be pushed away, the Predacons are

the girls are gonna keep being blown back

How if the girls are the stronger ones?

What even are the girls win cons here?

Just beating the cons + the back stabbing nature of some of the Predacons

I think the girls could be held back by Rumi if she loses hope mid fight

Why would she lose hope?

 

[Arkenis]

Once again, they are mostly strikers, and 4/6 out of them haven't shown any type of skill in CQC, I don't see how they would have their weapons broken either, if the girls hit them they are not going to be pushed away, the Predacons are

Striking is partially LS and I said a back and forth like a clash.

How if the girls are the stronger ones?

Stronger by 2x won't be an issue when the other teams got more opponents and greater LS

Why would she lose hope?

She's emotional throughout the movie and hides her demon side, if that comes out or she sees the girls doing worse.

Also, several of the cons are smarter and have range advantages if they decide on holding back and shooting.

 

[Drite77]

Striking is partially LS and I said a back and forth like a clash.

I don't think most of them will be able to clash with any of the girls

Stronger by 2x won't be an issue when the other teams got more opponents and greater LS

Yes it is, if you are blown back by a strike that's AP, you are not just going to stand there via LS

She's emotional throughout the movie and hides her demon side, if that comes out or she sees the girls doing worse.

I always assumed the profiles are the last version of the characters, the last version of the girls would be them together after the end of the movie

Also, several of the cons are smarter and have range advantages if they decide on holding back and shooting.

I believe I've stated 3 of the Predacons were unable to deal with a single enemy due to his acrobacies, said enemy is weaker then the girls. They also do not use their range advantages at all, outside of maybe Waspinator, they'll charge their enemies while using their guns

 

[Arkenis]

I don't think most of them will be able to clash with any of the girls

Why?

Yes it is, if you are blown back by a strike that's AP, you are not just going to stand there via LS

That's LS, you need to push back against the character's own LS and their weight.

I always assumed the profiles are the last version of the characters, the last version of the girls would be them together after the end of the movie

Just feels like hiding a clear weakness if you do that?

I believe I've stated 3 of the Predacons were unable to deal with a single enemy due to his acrobacies, said enemy is weaker then the girls. They also do not use their range advantages at all, outside of maybe Waspinator, they'll charge their enemies while using their guns

All you said was busy, there's gonna come a point when three big 4+ meter tall robots tryna attack you make you slip up.

 

[Drite77]

Why?

Superior skill on their department

That's LS, you need to push back against the character's own LS and their weight.

I'm pretty sure this is not the case, LS would normally only matter for grappling and clashes, which I don't think most of them will be able to do anyway. Sending someone flying is generally treated here as AP, why would it be LS? A character who is 4x times weaker in AP but 40x higher in LS would not just stand there as if nothing happened, they would be pushed away

Just feels like hiding a clear weakness if you do that?

I mean, not really? I'm pretty sure that's just all profiles here are treated

All you said was busy, there's gonna come a point when three big 4+ meter tall robots tryna attack you make you slip up.

Well, none of them are 4 meter tall, most of them are just a bit over 2 meters. Anyhow, that never really seemed a problem for Cheetor (The enemy who did this), and, from his showings, he likely wouldn't be as skilled or as acrobatic as them, from the few clips I've seen. Plus, as I've said before, they are stronger, so taking them out shouldn't be harder to do.

You also didn't really address the back-stabbing part of the Predacons either

 

[Arkenis]

I'm pretty sure this is not the case, LS would normally only matter for grappling and clashes, which I don't think most of them will be able to do anyway. Sending someone flying is generally treated here as AP, why would it be LS? A character who is 4x times weaker in AP but 40x higher in LS would not just stand there as if nothing happened, they would be pushed away

It's both not just one. Same way pushing a person takes adding weight not just hitting them. They aren't 4x stronger, it's at most 2.5x if we go with Wasp.

You also didn't really address the back-stabbing part of the Predacons either

There's little explained for that in weaknesses and sounds situational, so unless there's a reason they'd do so here, I don't see it happening.

 

[Arkenis]

I mean, not really? I'm pretty sure that's just all profiles here are treated

Nah this is something we've gone over with other characters where something that is in the arc is still part of the key. You'd be effectively arguing for post movie Rumi as she doesn't get over her issue till the last fight.

 

[Drite77]

It's both not just one. Same way pushing a person takes adding weight not just hitting them. They aren't 4x stronger, it's at most 2.5x if we go with Wasp.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case

There's little explained for that in weaknesses and sounds situational, so unless there's a reason they'd do so here, I don't see it happening.

Terrorsaur would try to strike Megatron down if he is having any type of trouble, while Tarantulas doesn't mind running away as he is loyal to his own agenda, there is not a lot mroe to ellaborate because it is simple

You'd be effectively arguing for post movie Rumi as she doesn't get over her issue till the last fight.

Sure, that's what I was taking into account when I made this '-'

 

[Arkenis]

Terrorsaur would try to strike Megatron down if he is having any type of trouble, while Tarantulas doesn't mind running away as he is loyal to his own agenda, there is not a lot mroe to ellaborate because it is simple

I would need to know the context of those instances to say they can apply here.

Sure, that's what I was taking into account when I made this '-'

Yet using her as the movie overall.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

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[Drite77]

I would need to know the context of those instances to say they can apply here.

Give me a few minutes, I'm playing a game

Yet using her as the movie overall.

I'm using her profile, which is not separated into keys, which generally means you'll use the last rendition of said character, which is the end of the movie

 

[Arkenis]

Her profiles brings it up
Weaknesses: Previously showed insecurity towards her demon heritage, but has since grown to accept it. Her voice can harm the Honmoon when upset.

But is contradictory so wtv

 

[Drite77]

I would need to know the context of those instances to say they can apply here.

Unfortunately the comic was cancelled before it was supposed to, (More comes with Blackarachnia but she is not currently involved in the fight), but here are the things some of the characters say to each other

In the first image, Tarantulas comments they are only loyal to Megatron as long as their interests align, in the second, Terrorsaur is already backing away from the fight to let Megatron die from fighting their enemies while in the 3rd, Terrorsaur is not willing to listen to Scorponok (More in-fighting), in the 4th image (Happens after the 1st image but I forgot to post it there), Tarantulas is already thinking of something to make Megatron lose the command of the Predacons. I'll admit, I forgot the exact words Terrorsaur said, but it still applies, if the tides are visibly turning, he won't help the Predacons in hopes that Megatron dies and he will not hear any of his fellow Predacon warriors

Tarantulas, as noted, is barely loyal to Megatron and will not follow him if their interests do not align, Terrorsaur would gladly stop fighting if it meant Megatron dying

I still maintain my vote from before, a single one of them can deal with multiple Predacons at the same time while the other two deal with Megatron and Skold, which are the only capable fighters in the team

 

[Arkenis]

Tarantulas comments they are only loyal to Megatron as long as their interests align,

How would this fight go against her interests?

Terrorsaur is already backing away from the fight to let Megatron die from fighting their enemies while in the 3rd,

Why would that happen here?

if the tides are visibly turning, he won't help the Predacons in hopes that Megatron dies and he will not hear any of his fellow Predacon warriors

I guess I just don't see such an event happening.

Alright, unless I see more arguments I'll just vote for the cons till then.

 

[Drite77]

How would this fight go against her interests?

*His. The main thing I would imagine is that he would not want to fight a bunch of random organics instead of doing anything else

Why would that happen here?

Once a Predacon or two go down (Waspinator + Either Scorponok or Tarantulas) he'll likely realise the girls are More then Meets the Eyes (Get it) and would back away to let them deal with the others

I guess I just don't see such an event happening.

Alright, unless I see more arguments I'll just vote for the cons till then.

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[Naito-desu]

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