Kai (Ninjago) vs Vegeta (Toei) [8-0-0]- GRACE

[MannyQ361]

Post Releasement Kai vs Saiyan Saga Vegeta

• Vegeta starts in his base
• Speed is equalized
• Location: Gizard Wasteland
• Starting Distance: 20 meters

VS

Kai: 8 Lloydblitzed, CastoriceTheFifth, TegamiBachi25, Zyurtunder13, Delusionaltx2, Ultimate-Rex1, MannyQ361, Raiden38
Vegeta:
Inconclusive:

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Bumping for interest

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Another Ninjago vs DB thread, another giant beef incoming

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Another Ninjago vs DB thread, another giant beef incoming

Expecting 7 pages of yap

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Expecting 7 pages of yap

What is Vegeta's Base key here?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

What is Vegeta's Base key here?

This is saiyan saga vegeta

if ur wondering, the ap gap is basically negligible (252 queta vs 271 queta)

ofc geets can gain a 10x amp via great ape

 

[Lloydblitzed]

This is saiyan saga vegeta

if ur wondering, the ap gap is basically negligible (252 queta vs 271 queta)

ofc geets can gain a 10x amp via great ape

Well that evens out with RDT's 10x amp

Well...for starters, Kai can burn him to death

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I'm surprised db characters don't have heat resistance

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Well...for starters, Kai can burn him to death

ig vegeta could repel it with ki?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

ig vegeta could repel it with ki?

If its base vs base, Kai would overpower the Ki blast

 

[Delusionaltx2]

If its base vs base, Kai would overpower the Ki blast

But he isn't necessarily struggling with it, though he's just suppressing and nullifying it though

The AP difference is also once again...very negligible, so I doubt kai being stronger would matter, especially when iirc, buu Saga Goku could nullify an attack from Buu Saga Vegeta despite both being relative

 

[Lloydblitzed]

But he isn't necessarily struggling with it, though he's just suppressing and nullifying it though

The AP difference is also once again...very negligible, so I doubt kai being stronger would matter, especially when iirc, buu Saga Goku could nullify an attack from Buu Saga Vegeta despite both being relative

Kai can throws explosive attacks as well which would be harder to null than just blasts

 

[MannyQ361]

If its base vs base, Kai would overpower the Ki blast

Would be a good clash.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Following

 

[MannyQ361]

Though if came to it, seems RDT would be too much to nullify in base.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Though if came to it, seems RDT would be too much to nullify in base.

Indeed

 

[MannyQ361]

Plus it looks quicker to pull off, as opposed to Vegeta's Oozaru transformation, where he needs a launch a Power Ball without a full moon.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah RDT is way easier to enter
That and he is slightly stronger and that if Vegeta misses a fire, he will be burnt to death, while Kai doesn’t really have that problem

I think this is a solid case for Kai winning

 

[MannyQ361]

Yeah even if Vegeta managed to transform, it would still be something he would have to watch out for.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Kai can throws explosive attacks as well which would be harder to null than just blasts

hmm thats fair

leaning towards kai but i'll wait for db supporters

 

[OrangeFR]

hmm thats fair

leaning towards kai but i'll wait for db supporters

I feel the same as of now

 

[MannyQ361]

Would like to add that Vegeta is capable of using the Kienzan at this point, but Kai should be able to dodge it if Vegeta goes for it.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Would like to add that Vegeta is capable of using the Kienzan at this point, but Kai should be able to dodge it if Vegeta goes for it.

Kai has showings of dodging spammed attacks on him so Ion think it would be much of an issue

 

[MannyQ361]

Yeah looks like Kai can handle it. Though another notable attack Vegeta has is Dirty Fireworks. However, seems unlikely he'd use it on Kai, who's on his level.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Im voting Kai over previous reasons

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kai for reasons

 

[MannyQ361]

Counted

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Kai FRA

 

[MannyQ361]

Counted

 

[Zyurtunder13]

Kai's arguments seem fair to me and easier to pull, so I vote for him

 

[MannyQ361]

Counted.

 

[AppleLord]

Vegeta speedblitz and blast this brick to a million pieces. This is a stomp or a gag post?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Vegeta speedblitz and blast this brick to a million pieces. This is a stomp or a gag post?

speed is equalized also both are tier 4 so you kinda need to be more specific

 

[OrangeFR]

Vegeta speedblitz and blast this brick to a million pieces. This is a stomp or a gag post

Read the profiles rq please. Kai scales higher into 4-C than Vegeta and he heavily upscales that value since that happened at the literal beginning of the series.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Vegeta speedblitz and blast this brick to a million pieces. This is a stomp or a gag post?

Speed is equalized

 

[StarShooter80]

The only way Vegeta closes the AP gap would be with the galick gun which can turn a stomp around, but that's just a single attack that requires time to charge up. Overall Kai is much stronger and unlike Vegeta he doesn't loose power when using his own 10x difference of an amp. His superior LF might be handy when using his telekinesis

I'm surprised db characters don't have heat resistance

Vegeta should upscaling from a much weaker Goku's durability but yeah his profile doesn't have it for some reason

 

[StarShooter80]

Another way Vegeta could close the AP gap more would be via his AD

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Another way Vegeta could close the AP gap more would be via his AD

Kai is realitively close to him skills wise so I don't think the fight will last for too long with the wincoins they have

 

[StarShooter80]

Yeah they do demonstrate similar skill scaling even if I think Vegeta edges it out a bit more

 

[AppleLord]

Saiyan get powerful in battle. Vegeta will overpower him eventually. Flying + ki blast barrages will keep him away. Or he can always go APe.