[Star Wars] This CRT shall be forged, This is The Way - Canon mandalorians revamp and creation

[Nonynho]

Greetings!

I like those metal-loving cool-helmet wearing skilled af fellas, so i made some profiles better and got some profiles made! It's a few and more can be done, but steps must be made!
Let's go from major changes to edited profiles and then to the created profiles.

• Major changes:
  • Thanks to @Phsccarvalho for those scans!
    With it, i think it would be reasonable to call out that it is possible that the equipment the mandalorians have are still built or have reminiscensce of the "Anti-Jedi" intent on them, adding this to all mandalorian and foundling profiles (Will add all the affected profiles in a bit):

• Possibly Multi-City Block level with mandalorian equipment (In the past, when the Mandalorians clashed with the Jedi, their weapons, arsenal, and technology were greatly enhanced and specifically designed to counter them, with some gadgets even being referred to as anti-Jedi)

• • There's also Din Djarin, whose Vambraces' cords shouldn't be able to hold Ahsoka Tano if they were regular stuff, which i can add if y'all think corroborates with the argument
  • I also only applied this change in my sandbox for Din Djarin, only if approven that i'll be putting on the other guys'
• As you must have seen, i have shown Din Djarin fighting Ahsoka, which is very impactful, as he was supposed to be Peak Human/Superhuman while she's reacting to Vader's MHS+. So, this should be applied to Mando and everyone who scales to him (which happens to also be everyone who i had to list for the other change, yay):

• [...] Massively Hypersonic+ combat and reaction speed (Could react to and fight with Din Djarin (or in his case, we say Ahsoka Tano, instead) [...]

• Last but not least, the affected by the above additions, below:
  
  • Spoiler: them

    Din Djarin (anyone without parenthesys scales to him)
    The Armorer
    Boba Fett
    Jango Fett (Scales to his clone/son)
    Moff Gideon
    Cad Bane (Scales to Boba)
    IG-88 (his parent model, IG-11, reacted to and fought with Din Djarin)
    Cara Dune

• Edits for existent profiles:
  • Din Djarin, "Mando" for most
    • Complete reform of PnA section, small additions for other parts for clarification sake, addition of 96% of the references and addition of the major changes mentioned above;
  • Din Grogu
    • Few more references, addition of his rebaptized name, revamp of his PnA adding what he's shown more with the Force and his custom foundling armor
      
      
• Creation of new profiles:
  • Tarre Vizsla (Didn't include him in the "Anti-Jedi equipment" thingy cuz why would a Jedi use Anti-Jedi things lol)
  • The (goat) Armorer
    
    
• Note:

No images were reworked or added for the simple reason that i cannot do this properly lol. When asked on the Profile image additions or replacements requests' forum, someone told me, fortunately, that i can get things approven first and then images added :>


Agreed:

Disagreed:

Neutral:

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

following

 

[Phsccarvalho]

• Homing Attack, Explosion Manipulation and limited Durability Negation with Whistling Bird Missiles (Tiny homing missiles made of beskar that explode inside their targets <a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Orewanoninho/sandbox#cite_note-43"><span>[</span>43<span>]</span></a>. Beskar weapons bypass beskar armor)

• Limited Durability Negation with Beskar Lance (A weapon made with Beskar can bypass armor made with the same material, to the point that The Armorer claimed the existence this weapon is a risk for Mandalorians)
• Resistance to Plasma Manipulation & Energy Projection via Beskar Lance (Beskar, as a material, resists shots from blasters and attacks from Lightsabers)

The first one, I don't think is durability negation. It's just a sharp metal being strong enough to pierce a resistant metal (in this case, the two are the same material).

The second one you forgot about Heat resistance.

• Energy Projection with IB-94 Blaster Pistol

All blaster weaponry has plasma, energy projection and heat manipulation.

and possibly Multi-City Block level with mandalorian equipment

You put the wrong bold and forgot to update the tiers up there. Besides that I personally prefer a straight tirer without possibly.

Striking Strength: Wall level, Small Building level with vibroknife and blasters, Multi-City Block level with the Darksaber and possibly Multi-City Block level with mandalorian equipment

This part is the character's physical strength, the equipment does not enter into this.

Likely up to Multi-City Block level with his Beskar armor (Beskar is resistant to lightsaber attacks, including the Darksaber, used by Moff Gideon against him)

I don't know why this is "Likely". Beskar is considered a nearly indestructible metal that can withstand 8-A attacks, so...?

 

[Nonynho]

The first one, I don't think is durability negation.

Beskar weapons (and ammo too, hence why i put this on the Whistling Bird missiles) ignore beskar armor. The Armorer said it in The Mandalorian ep and i mention it in both that the duraneg is specifically for Beskar stuff

(A weapon made with Beskar can bypass armor made with the same material, to the point that The Armorer claimed the existence this weapon is a risk for Mandalorians)

Beskar weapons bypass beskar armor)

ig i forgor to put the reference for when she said it, It's supposed to be there rn

All blaster weaponry has plasma, energy projection and heat manipulation.

Noted.

forgot to update the tiers up there. Besides that I personally prefer a straight tirer without possibly.

wym update the "tiers up there"?
Would be lovely to put without the "possibly" but i think it wouldnt be approved for the nature of being in the past

You put the wrong bold

geez, around the 5th time those boldings bothering me lmao

This part is the character's physical strength, the equipment does not enter into this.

wym? Equipment can enter there because some equipment are directly influenced by the user's physical strength

I don't know why this is "Likely". Beskar is considered a nearly indestructible metal that can withstand 8-A attacks, so...?

that was already there and i didn't mess up much with stats that were already there, just added some.
But yeah, sounds reasonable to take this likely off, dunno why i haven't done this before

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Beskar weapons (and ammo too, hence why i put this on the Whistling Bird missiles) ignore beskar armor. The Armorer said it in The Mandalorian ep and i mention it in both that the duraneg is specifically for Beskar stuff

This isn't durability negation yet. It's simply the weapon being strong enough to break through the armor.

wym? Equipment can enter there because some equipment are directly influenced by the user's physical strength

Dude, you misunderstood. SS is just the character's physical strength, what they can do with a single attack. It doesn't include things like equipment, weapons (whether melee or not), etc.

On the wiki, every weapon is directly enhanced by the user's own strength (otherwise, you'd see Naruto characters with 9-Cs, since they use ordinary weapons without anything special), but that applies to AP. SS is simply the character's physical strength and the damage they can inflict with punches, kicks, or headbutts.

 

[Nonynho]

This isn't durability negation yet. It's simply the weapon being strong enough to break through the armor.

When she claims that it has the capability of piercing mandalorian armor, it is not because of the lance being too good of a lance, because then the armorer would be clearer, like "it was forged in a way to put mandalorians at risk". Instead, she just claimed that it has the ability to pierce through beskar armor, which is way more specific

Dude, you misunderstood.

If that's so, then imma back down from this argument for now, but it really makes sense in my mind.

 

[Hypertornado099]

There's also Din Djarin, whose Vambraces' cords shouldn't be able to hold Ahsoka Tano if they were regular stuff, which i can add if y'all think corroborates with the argument

Why do you say that? She was able to effortlessly cut them off with her lightsaber. Ahsoka isn't particularly strong in terms of lifting/flexing

 

[Nonynho]

Why do you say that? She was able to effortlessly cut them off with her lightsaber. Ahsoka isn't particularly strong in terms of lifting/flexing

Because jedi(/strong force sensitives) being superhuman in many ways are able to tore off regular ropes/cords, so this could be a slight reminisce of this anti-jedi-ness in the equips or outright something that they used

And, well, what does not get cut by a lightsaber with mid-diff at max? That part wouldn't counter the argument

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I have to fix this LS sometime since the back has UES. I'm not on my phone so I'll just say this.

 

[Nonynho]

I have to fix this LS sometime since the back has UES. I'm not on my phone so I'll just say this.

Yay, plz do

 

[Nonynho]

Bump

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Carvalho, mate, i heard you can call out some people to effectively take a look here whenever possible, may i ask you to summon someone?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I agree with @Phsccarvalho

@DarkDragonMedeus @FinePoint @ActuallySpaceMan42 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless quick thread pls thanks

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with @Phsccarvalho

Same

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

As long as Phsccarvalho's changes have been applied, this is fine.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@noninho

There you go, fren

Thank you both

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Crt was accepted then. Unless the OP wants to discuss the small points of disagreement.

wym update the "tiers up there"?
Would be lovely to put without the "possibly" but i think it wouldnt be approved for the nature of being in the past

Sorry I didn't reply I was talking about that.

9-B physically, 9-A with vibroknife and blasters, 8-C with sufficient bombs

In this case it would be:

9-B physically, 9-A with vibroknife and blasters, 8-C with sufficient bombs, 8-A with Mandalorian Equipment

or:

9-B physically, 8-A with Mandalorian Equipment

I agree with @Phsccarvalho

@DarkDragonMedeus @FinePoint @ActuallySpaceMan42 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless quick thread pls thanks

Speaking of which, before closing, etc., I said I'd prefer 8-A for Mandalorian equipment in general in lowercase. This would technically replace the unique tiers of some weapons (like vibroknifes/blasters (9-A) and sufficient bombs (8-C), as I put above. Since Mandalorian weaponry/equipment would scale to Jedi).

I don't know if you saw, it was in lowercase letters.

What's your opinion on this?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I don't know if you saw, it was in lowercase letters.

I did. I agreed.

 

[Nonynho]

or:

As some equipment are proven to be around 9-A of level, we may agree on the last one for the first key, but with a small change

9-B Physically, up to 8-A with mandalorian equipment

how about it? Specially considering that Din Djarin makes very short usage of the vibroknife and his blaster collection is very big for the first key.

Also, as "mandalorian" is the best way to write it as it is a religion and ethnicity, so it would work like "christian" or "irish", meaning no capitalization of the first letter imo

 

[Nonynho]

I also take a second to thank everyone who came here

 

[Phsccarvalho]

As some equipment are proven to be around 9-A of level

Proven. no? It's basically a calculation/minimum power for that thing based solely on its destructive output.

It would be like giving a 9-C to any character who uses common melee weapons or firearms, completely ignoring the scaling of the character or weapon (if it has any special context; otherwise, we consider its power to be the merit of the wielder). Like, for example, Dante/Zombieman. His pistols are literally just like standard pistols, nothing special. But we didn't set them to 9-C because pistols are 9-C, we just scaled them.

Yes, blasters are calculated at 9-A, but if they consistently inflict 8-A damage in a character's hands, or the weapons themselves were designed to inflict 8-A damage in context (in the case of Mandalorian blasters), then they scale accordingly.

 

[Nonynho]

Proven. no? It's basically a calculation/minimum power for that thing based solely on its destructive output.

It would be like giving a 9-C to any character who uses common melee weapons or firearms, completely ignoring the scaling of the character or weapon (if it has any special context; otherwise, we consider its power to be the merit of the wielder). Like, for example, Dante/Zombieman. His pistols are literally just like standard pistols, nothing special. But we didn't set them to 9-C because pistols are 9-C, we just scaled them.

Yes, blasters are calculated at 9-A, but if they consistently inflict 8-A damage in a character's hands, or the weapons themselves were designed to inflict 8-A damage in context (in the case of Mandalorian blasters), then they scale accordingly.

"Up to 8-A with mandalorian equipment" seems acceptable, still, with what you're telling me, due to the large collection that Din Djarin has in this key
Would you agree with that?

 

[Nonynho]

as most of those were minor edits, changes were applied!

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

as most of those were minor edits, changes were applied!

Closing then