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-The King of Demons vs The King of Curse-
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Last time Sukuna was limited in equipment and had much weaker stats. Now he has an AP advantage of x4.3
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Nothing really changes even with it. Last match he had TS and still didn't win. The AP diff is actually much lower, Muzan's above that 117kt, Sukuna's not above that 514kt. This is more like a 2x different maybe. But still Sukuna can't resist the bio manip like last time.
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Muzan also still massively upscales his value
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What's stopping him from using DE+Fuga instantly?
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The same thing that stopped him before, Muzan's regen is good enough. Muzan also just needs one nick.
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he never does, its too slow, and muzan can just regenerate it from it all
edit: maybe he would, considering he has prior knowledge, but so does muzan so he will probably go for the kill and not risk it
just graze his eyes and give him cancer like he did with tanjiro
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Domain Expansion isnt going to kill him. He is never landing Fuga.
Here's how the fight is going to go. Muzan BFRs both of them into the infinity fortress. Muzan teleports to Sukuna and decapitates him or bio hax one shot vaporize him instantly. He's never going to land Fuga because he can just either teleport out of the infinity fortress or teleport sukuna out of it. Voting Muzan
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Since speed is equalised and you can’t really dodge the sure hit. Couldn’t he just dust Muzan with it?
Also I’m so confused how he gets to 100kt profile doesn’t explain it
Also in before mountain level sukuna lol
Also in before mountain level sukuna lol
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Its from Nakime
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The verse profile explains it. They’re 4x stronger than Gyutaro’s feat. Also malevolent shrine isn’t killing Muzan when his regeneration is instantaneous mid slashes.
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Yeah but her calc is 5kt
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No it’s from Gyutaro. A new CRT upgraded his feat and we reapplied zohakuten’s 4X multiplier
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But it’s not just a single slash over and over again they repeatedly start spamming him till the target becomes dust. So it’s more like hundreds of little bites continuously doing it before they can regenerate
If it were just normal cleaves and dismantles then yeah but they’d still slash as he’s regenerating if that makes any sense
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Regeneration (High-Mid [Instant]; Even after being reduced to a decapitated head, a low-level demon would have still been capable of regenerating if his head were to be "completely crushed") resists and conceals the effects of Yoriichi's Bright Red Blade, which has caused wounds that are constantly burning on the cellular level for hundreds for years. Instantly regenerated as Obanai was cutting through his neck and regenerated so fast that Mitsuri initially thought that slashing attacks phased through his body)
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The problem is that they don’t do just one clean slice over the target they do millions on the person and eat away at the person till it becomes dust.
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This is performed by drugged Muzan. If Gojo with Mid Regen RCT can out Rēgen Sukuna’s domain expansion then so can Muzan with High Mid Regen Instant
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He didn’t out regen tho he maxxed out his enforcement to ensure that the slashes wouldn’t go deep and then regenerated after MS was down
He essentially survived via durability
Tbf tho you could argue mahoraga did perform a similar in the anime but it could also just be argued he adapted to slices in general
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The best example I can compare shrine to is shoving Muzan in a 360 degree belt sander
Also iirc RCT can be used against poisons and toxins, which is why he’s not affected by peircing blood but I’m not sure if that’s on his profile
Also iirc RCT can be used against poisons and toxins, which is why he’s not affected by peircing blood but I’m not sure if that’s on his profile
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At first I wanted to argue that opponents with the corresponding durability wouldn't be cut easily, but then I remembered that Muzan's dura is 8-B. His entire body except his neck would be reduced to dust. His neck would also be cut into pieces and Muzan would hardly survive it.
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Regeneration (Mid; Used Reverse Cursed Technique to return from the verge of death[10] after being stabbed through the throat, cut down the torso, stabbed through the thigh four times, and punctured in the head.[1] At full throttle, Gojo's Reverse Cursed Technique healed him as fast as the rapid-firing slashes of Malevolent Shrine were damaging him[3])
Gojo’s entire argument in the Makima fight was relying on how fast his Rct was in Sukuna’s domain???
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These were superficial cuts. Before World Slash and Mahoraga, he had never received a clean cut. Only deep scratches.
Muzan will be cut into dust
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That’s just wrong tho? I mean ig if the profile works like that sure Muzan regenerates but that’s not what happened lol
He’ll if that’s what happened how tf did he die lmfao
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The argument being made is that Gojo would’ve literally survive this barrage with no RCT. Current profiles accepts him out regenerating the slashes with Mid regen RCT at full throttle. Muzan with High Mid Instant Regen is out regenerating it.
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Muzans durability everywhere aside from his neck is upscaling city block level+ in durability tho. Gojo’s durability is large town level+The argument being made is that Gojo would’ve literally survive this barrage with no RCT. Current profiles accepts him out regenerating the slashes with Mid regen RCT at full throttle. Muzan with High Mid Instant Regen is out regenerating it.
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This matchup has already happened before with the same exact durability and it was accepted in that match that the only win con was Fuga between like 26 people mutually agreeing he’s out regenerating despite dookiebdurability.
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Except not only is the gap much larger than before but like this is a new MU? Like iirc gojo vs makima was done plenty of times before too
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The gap between his sukuna’s slashes and muzan’s durability last time was 73x gap. Legit what changes.
Also new matchup yet the first message of the matchup is asking what changes
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Are we just treating sukuna’s slashes like it’s hollow purple or something?
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I mean considering people just seemed to misintepret what tf happened with gojo vs sukuna. Also i read gojo's profile, he's durability is also that for surviving MS so either he tanked it or he RCT'd it, gojo shouldn't have mid regen for it, it's even stated BY gojo that the cuts weren't going to deep so he could RCT it at full throttle.
Also at a certain point gojo just stopped using rct iirc
It's essentially a omnidirectional belt sander that pushes in closer to you
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I’m just gonna leave this information here with a benefit of the doubt (before @Catbowtie cooks it) I said earlier Sukuna will never land Fuga because he can just teleport Sukuna or himself out of the fortress. Same thing applies against Domain. He can just leave or teleport across the fortress.
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tbf he doesn't really teleport, doesn't he open doors and then leaves through that iirc? Also wouldn't sukuna know about this too
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There’s 2 variations. The first method is via doors that just appears out of nowhere. The second method is via teleportation. It’s how the upper moons all got teleported into the infinity fortress and across it without a portal.
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Nothing changes. The Muzan's regeneration is too strong.
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Does he do this with humans too? Cause it could just be argued that they TP there due to being demons.
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Hope I'm on time.
Nothing has changed from the previous Muzan vs Sukuna fight.
The potency of Muzan's regenerative power still far outclasses anything in the Jujutsu Kaisen verse. Period. Average low tier Demons in Kimetsu no Yaiba are High-Mid while Sukuna is Mid. Akaza's Regeneration was happening nigh instantly against Rengoku, who was fighting evenly with him. When Giyu, Obanai, and Mitsuri first cut through a Drugged Muzan's body, couldn't perceive the attacks slicing through Muzan's body.
If having multiple limbs is the peak of sorcery in Jujutsu Kaisen, Muzan passes the peak with flying colors. Sukuna's 4 arms and an extra mouth gets dwarfed by Muzan's 12+ appendages, all of which can extend 10+ meters, all of which are carrying Muzan's blood, all of which will cause Biological Deconstruction in literal seconds. Muzan will certainly tag Sukuna in close-quarters-combat with his 12+ whips, and quickly vaporize Sukuna without him being able to do anything. Muzan's Bio Hax had Marked Demon Hunters pressed. The same Marked Demon Slayers who need to willingly wait 3 or so days before becoming a demon can quickly die to Muzan's blood if they are constantly pump with it in 5 minutes. Muzan's Bio Hax also had other demons pressed. All demons have High-Mid regeneration, and even they can't regenerate through Muzan's Bio Hax, in fact they can die even despite it.
With Meguna, at least he could've stayed away and kept distance to bid time, but True Form Sukuna? His only way to fight is to get within Muzan's range. In the original Muzan vs Sukuna thread, it was generally agreed upon that Muzan Stomps. Muzam Stomps here as well. Take this as the quick way out so everyone isn't repeating the same things over and over again.
Nothing has changed from the previous Muzan vs Sukuna fight.
The potency of Muzan's regenerative power still far outclasses anything in the Jujutsu Kaisen verse. Period. Average low tier Demons in Kimetsu no Yaiba are High-Mid while Sukuna is Mid. Akaza's Regeneration was happening nigh instantly against Rengoku, who was fighting evenly with him. When Giyu, Obanai, and Mitsuri first cut through a Drugged Muzan's body, couldn't perceive the attacks slicing through Muzan's body.
Nothing in Sukuna's arsenal will do anything, including Furnace. None of them are valid win conditions.
If having multiple limbs is the peak of sorcery in Jujutsu Kaisen, Muzan passes the peak with flying colors. Sukuna's 4 arms and an extra mouth gets dwarfed by Muzan's 12+ appendages, all of which can extend 10+ meters, all of which are carrying Muzan's blood, all of which will cause Biological Deconstruction in literal seconds. Muzan will certainly tag Sukuna in close-quarters-combat with his 12+ whips, and quickly vaporize Sukuna without him being able to do anything. Muzan's Bio Hax had Marked Demon Hunters pressed. The same Marked Demon Slayers who need to willingly wait 3 or so days before becoming a demon can quickly die to Muzan's blood if they are constantly pump with it in 5 minutes. Muzan's Bio Hax also had other demons pressed. All demons have High-Mid regeneration, and even they can't regenerate through Muzan's Bio Hax, in fact they can die even despite it.
With Meguna, at least he could've stayed away and kept distance to bid time, but True Form Sukuna? His only way to fight is to get within Muzan's range. In the original Muzan vs Sukuna thread, it was generally agreed upon that Muzan Stomps. Muzam Stomps here as well. Take this as the quick way out so everyone isn't repeating the same things over and over again.
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He has not. However the teleportation aspect would still work on himself. He can teleport outside inside or around the infinity fortress without a portal. He can just open a portal to kick Sukuna out of the infinity fortress if he tries something crazy (the portals don’t only spawn on the ground). He can also keep shifting the entire dimension into his favor.
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