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Video killed the Radio Star

This debate is a weird case. All we know about Al and Vo’s fight is that Vo won the fight by a hair’s breadth and it was started because Al didn’t want to join the V so Vo got pissy over it, otherwise we don’t know a thing about what happened. There’s also the fact that we have not seen Vo in anything even resembling a fight, so we don’t know what he would even do in a real honest to god fight. For simplicity’s sake, I’ll just vote Vox FRA.
 
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This debate is a weird case. All we know about Al and Vo’s fight is that Vo won the fight by a hair’s breadth and it was started because Al didn’t want to join the V so Vo got pissy over it, otherwise we don’t know a thing about what happened. There’s also the fact that we have not seen Vo in anything even resembling a fight, so we don’t know what he would even do in a real honest to god fight.
Actually, Vox states himself that he totally beat Alastor last time (“I totally wrecked his shit last time he tried me”), and he was also stated to be the strongest Overlord, both of which are consistent with who won the fight according to Valentino. Also, he still has 7-C in the profile while Alastor has Low 7-C, don’t they?
For simplicity’s sake, I’ll just vote Vox FRA.
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Actually, Vox states himself that he totally beat Alastor last time (“I totally wrecked his shit last time he tried me”), and he was also stated to be the strongest Overlord, both of which are consistent with who won the fight according to Valentino. Also, he still has 7-C in the profile while Alastor has Low 7-C, don’t they?

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His 7-C is probably getting ****** once Hazbin downgrades come around, since mods like Agnaa take issue with the calcs themselves

Anyways, yeah Vox FRA, though I wouldn't take what he says as gospel considering he DOES lie in like the first 30 seconds we see him on-screen in the season.
 
wait a moment, Where the hell was it said that Alastor lost against Vox? In fact it doesn't make sense that Alastor loses against Vox, because first of all, then why the hell is the guy so angry with Alastor? you are not angry with someone you beat and You think you're superior, then he roast you in a song without insulting you, and then you cause a blackout in the whole city because of it, that does not sound like you are superior, that sounds like you have a massive ******* ego and you are ******* lying.
 
wait a moment, Where the hell was it said that Alastor lost against Vox? In fact it doesn't make sense that Alastor loses against Vox, because first of all, then why the hell is the guy so angry with Alastor? you are not angry with someone you beat and You think you're superior, then he roast you in a song without insulting you, and then you cause a blackout in the whole city because of it, that does not sound like you are superior, that sounds like you have a massive ******* ego and you are ******* lying.
Why is Alastor so mad when Sir Pentious did not defeat him but just took tear a part of his cloth? Same here.
 
Late to the party but better late than never, personally I think these needs more context because “almost beaten” could mean a verity of different things, and mean technically won or technically lost depending on how you look at it. But based on the limit amount of context provided to us I say…

Alastor FTW. Many people mention the fact that “Alastor almost beat Vox” which implies that Alastor lost. However, they completely disregard the fact that Alastor implied that “Vox would be powerless without the other Vees” which implies Vox wasn't the main problem, and that Valentino and Velvet jumped in and saved Vox from nearly being defeated by Alastor at some point and together they were able to outnumber Alastor. This would explain why Valentino mentioning Alastor almost beating Vox pissed Vox off so much. And when Alastor mentions this both Valentino and Velvet give the “oh shit, here we go again face…” face which implies that they were very fimilar with what Alastor is referring to because well… they were there! Vox just doesn't act like the winner in this scenario he acts more like the sore loser if he really did best and beat Alastor then why would Valentino mentioning his near defeat upset him? The puzzle pieces just don’t fit.
 
Late to the party but better late than never, personally I think these needs more context because “almost beaten” could mean a verity of different things, and mean technically won or technically lost depending on how you look at it. But based on the limit amount of context provided to us I say…

Alastor FTW. Many people mention the fact that “Alastor almost beat Vox” which implies that Alastor lost. However, they completely disregard the fact that Alastor implied that “Vox would be powerless without the other Vees” which implies Vox wasn't the main problem, and that Valentino and Velvet jumped in and saved Vox from nearly being defeated by Alastor at some point and together they were able to outnumber Alastor. This would explain why Valentino mentioning Alastor almost beating Vox pissed Vox off so much. And when Alastor mentions this both Valentino and Velvet give the “oh shit, here we go again face…” face which implies that they were very fimilar with what Alastor is referring to because well… they were there! Vox just doesn't act like the winner in this scenario he acts more like the sore loser if he really did best and beat Alastor then why would Valentino mentioning his near defeat upset him? The puzzle pieces just don’t fit.
I'd give you about 10 paragraphs explaining why you're wrong, but I'm saving that for the insuing rage at me for downgrading 95% of the verse into the stone ages of ******* 8-C.
 
I'd give you about 10 paragraphs explaining why you're wrong, but I'm saving that for the insuing rage at me for downgrading 95% of the verse into the stone ages of ******* 8-C.
The hazbin hotel verse will not survive being in the same tier as madness combat.
 
I'd give you about 10 paragraphs explaining why you're wrong, but I'm saving that for the insuing rage at me for downgrading 95% of the verse into the stone ages of ******* 8-C.
That would be nice I’m sure I will have counters to them. But if you do somehow manage to convince them great. I consider myself a pretty person and I be afraid admit it. But no matter how many times I rewatch the show or try to see it from the other perspective it just doesn’t sit right with me.
 
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The hazbin hotel verse will not survive being in the same tier as madness combat.
It's also nowhere NEAR skilled enough for any matches to happen. This ain't a verse with skill-based army solos, and no amount of glazing the **** out of Alastor is going to save him from being torn to shreds over and over again by ol' Hank.
That would be nice I’m sure I will have counters to them.
Kind of hard to counter "This isn't a feat for the guy who caused it on the profiles, and the feat part of it is 8-C".

And if you're talking about the Alastor=<Vox thing, I have had extended debates about it already. It's better to say "Agree to disagree" and move on until we have more information.
 
And if you're talking about the Alastor=<Vox thing, I have had extended debates about it already. It's better to say "Agree to disagree" and move on until we have more information.
Trust me, it really isn’t when my argument is about Alastor > Vox in terms of context not Alastor or Vox being 8-C or whatever you are trying to argue here (as neither of them are 8-C) as they are two completely different arguments, but I do agree with this last part.
 
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