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Joseph vs Caeser
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Maybe I am wrong but I think that Joseph wins, he can use his tricks against Caesar in the same way that he did with Esidisi and defeated him, so, he probably can outsmart Caesar in the fight
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hm, Ceaser only lost to wamuu because it was in a closed environment, While Joseph for the first time that I face it it remained almost dry, and it was not such a closed environment but not very large either.
then let's remember that Joseph would never kill a person, (SBA breaks) Joseph just beats them but it's not his style to kill.
The same valley for Caeser
Joseph however managed to outsmart Kars, so he have some chanche of winning. he outsmarted Caeser too
then let's remember that Joseph would never kill a person, (SBA breaks) Joseph just beats them but it's not his style to kill.
The same valley for Caeser
Joseph however managed to outsmart Kars, so he have some chanche of winning. he outsmarted Caeser too
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Kars is ******* dumb for a JoJo villain so that isn't much of a feat, but the point is still there.
Joseph tricked everybody who mattered in part 2 INCLUDING Caesar at least once. he's just smarter and has more feats of being smart, and that's all he needs to win since they're the same in almost every other way.
Joseph tricked everybody who mattered in part 2 INCLUDING Caesar at least once. he's just smarter and has more feats of being smart, and that's all he needs to win since they're the same in almost every other way.
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Joseph has known Caesar for months and the environment they're in has enough spots to hide traps- he should be able to very easily set up some trickster bs
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Canonically the most inteligent Pillar Men, which are more than genius already with 400 IQ.
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yeah that's cool and all, but the actual stuff he does in the manga is dumb. he makes moronic choices every chance he gets. I could go on all night about how much stupid shit he does and how oblivious he gets just so Joseph can not die to him immediately. Esidisi by actual showings against Joseph was smarter than Kars ever was.
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Still Canonically he is smarter
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That's false the only stupid move he actually made is to not kill Joseph immediately after becoming the ultimate lifeform but at that time he wanted to enjoy killing Joseph as much as he could which Joseph used to his advantage before becoming the ultimate life form he stood no chance against Joseph and he knew that
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"I am going to kill you!!! Right here, right now!!"
and then he goes on to not do that.
lol
Yeah since you seem to think the only dumb thing he did was 'not kill Joseph right away', let me break down how much of a tactical moron this guy is.
- He falls for sleight of hand before he even becomes the ultimate lifeform. Not even complex sleight of hand, he just gets baited into setting up his own lynching and then doesn't even notice that he's got a rope tied to his leg until it's too late.
- After he becomes the ultimate lifeform, he just lets Joseph run away while following him at a casual glide instead of shooting his legs out from under him with the same kind of projectile attacks he shows later in the final fight. even if he wants to prolong Joseph's death or whatever he doesn't even try to stop him from running even though A. this is the same guy who just duped him a few minutes before and B. crippling him would've been just fine for that without leaving him with an opportunity to find an escape.
- When he shoots his hardened feather-scales into the plane Joseph's on once they're flying, what does he turn them into to incap Joseph? piranhas. not bigger animals or something that could actually destroy the plane while it's in the air (or even without suffocating since sea life can't ******* breathe in a plane), but piranhas. oh and some squid tentacles (which means he could've totally changed the mass of those to something bigger than piranhas if he wanted) to destroy the propeller and make it fall, perfect for giving Joseph just enough time to set up his next move.
- then he falls for the oldest trick in the book by going after a ******* decoy that Joseph planted his parachute on. doesn't even realize it's not Joseph until he gets close even though giving his eyes the sight of a hawk would've let him pick that shit out clear as day. (you're telling me someone with an over 400 IQ couldn't think of something like that when even I could?
- then when he's in space after failing to get to safety, the guy with an over 400 IQ realizes he's freezing solid and tries to grow wings again instead of superheating his blood or doing something else with his biology to try and continually slow down the freezing. Which he totally could've done since he survived being in molten magma through an equally ridiculous method involving his biology
- All this on top of the fact that his ultimate lifeform self should have the same hypnotism Dio Brando used in Part 1 (because he has the abilities of literally everything on the planet), and therefore could've avoided this whole mess just by hypnotizing Joseph into walking right into his hands once it became obvious that tricking him wasn't going to work.
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All I know is, like I said, this isn't even relevant to the fight. the point in the end is that Joseph 'outsmarting Kars' isn't that good a feat when Kars proves a bunch of times that he's not even that hard to trick, but that doesn't even matter here because Joseph still has more/better intelligence feats than Caesar does. he still wins.
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Yah.
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joseph fra
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I'm voting for Joseph FRA
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you know that is just PIS to make joseph survive and kars wanted to kill joseph with hamon
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just josephpotence.
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When a character does that much dumb stuff it's not PIS, it's just the character being dumb. he doesn't even have any showings that contradict how dumb he was in the final fight. he just has an IQ statement that doesn't hold any water.
wanting to kill joseph with Hamon doesn't change the fact that he fell for a bad decoy, also.
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