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I guess you can close threads now because you feel like it. I guess the person who made the thread has no saying in the matter. This is one of the reason people dislike this wiki, seriously.
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@Glass
Saying "mangaka's aren't always consistant" isn't a arguement. The fact that magic having a soul has clearly been demostrated by franmalth absorbing natsu's magic, and we also see it with atlas flames's hellfire. Unless you have something that disprove this, then your arguement is...
@RIn
Souls being orbs have been consistant in fairy tail, what are you talking about?. In fairy tail it was shown that souls are able to take their human form, like when hades's soul went from being a ball into a human form.
Also acnologia's was able to turn his soul into a human form, and...
@Glass
The pic was to show how souls in fairy tail looked like. It had no meaning other then that, you just assumed that i was talking about the picture.
@Rin
It doesn't matter what amount of soul it is, the fact that no soul came out after the magic was destroyed proves to us that it also was destroyed with the magic.
Also this very chapter proves to us that natsu and lucy are able to see souls, and even feel them. We can see this when they...
@Rin
If the soul inside the magic was not destroyed, then we would have seen it. The fact that we do not see any soul after their magic is destroyed, proves to us that these characters have destroyed everything. Souls in fairy tail take in the shape of white balls floating, we would have seen...
@Antvasima
If that's the case, then why don't you remove every single character that has soul destruction set as soul manipulation on their profiles. You're clearly not making any sense. We have clear evidence of magic having a soul, and if a another character is able to destroy that very...
@Rin
All they're doing is using their spiritual energy to strenghten their body. It's not the same thing we're talking here. We're talking about magic having a piece of soul, and a another character able to destroy that very magic.
This will only aply with characters that has the ability to destroy magic or absorb magic, not everyone in the verse will get limited soul manipulation or absorption.
@Antvasima
This has nothing to do with controling souls, you are clearly not reading the topic. It's about them being able to destroy a magic, that contains a piece of soul. This is soul destruction, not manipulation. There is so many characters on this wiki that has shown the ability to...
Does chakra have a soul?, no. Does haki have soul?, no. Just because they're a spiritual energy, doesn't mean that they contain the users soul.
Magic in fairy tail is not about spirituality, but rather the fact that magic having a piece of the users soul and memory/thoughts.
@Antvasima
Sorry but i disgree with you, you are clrealy not reading my comments. Even if we ignore makarov's statement, we still have natsu and atlas flames's evidence of magic having a soul.
Atlas flames's hellfire which is his magic, contained a piece of his soul.
Natsu's lightning flame...
@Glass
"There's a difference between seeing a house on fire, and seeing someone absorb an attack to redirect it.
To redirect it? What in the world are you talking about. Franmalth clearly absorbed the piece of soul inside natsu's lightning fire dragon magic and was able to use it. It had...
@Glass
"The whole magic having souls is a statement from a speech from makarov, and happy, who again, isn't the most reliable source out there."
No, the feats are from both natsu and atlas flames. Like i said in my other comments and so many times so far.
"We have the first case being atlas...
@Glass
We're not using happy's statement here, i have said this before. We're using the feat that franmalth preformed, and that was him using his soul absorption on natsu's magic and absorbing the soul inside it.
Even if we used happy's statement, what's wrong with that?. What happy is saying...
@Antvasima
It's no longer a figure of speech when you have a clear evidence of magic having soul. Franmalth clearly demonstrated this when he used his soul absorbing curse on natsu's magic, and absorbed it.
If a character has shown the ability to destroy a soul, then that character gets soul...
@Glass
Sorry, i disagree with your arguement and it doesn't make any sense. Magic has been shown to have the users soul, and i have already posted scans about it. We have the first case being atlas flames's hellfire, it contained his soul. The second case being natsu's magic, it also contained...
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant him fighting them one on one after he absorbs all 10c. I don't think DK or SD will even work togather in a fight, they will be busy fighting themselves.
I'm talking about 10c meliodas, i'm pretty sure he should be able to fight against the demon king. It would also be awesome if we got elizabeth with 4g, but who knows whether that would happen.
I want to see a fight where meliodas takes on the demon king and the supreme deity, after all it was these 2 people that cursed him and his lover elizabeth.
So he turns attacks and debuffs into either healing or to strengthen himself.
That's a kinda cool ability, but it can have it's weaknesses. Like what ban did, instead of debuffing him, he actually buffed him in which reversed the effect.
This is the people who either disagree, agreed or just stayed neutral.
Agreed: KaiserReinhardt , DragonEmperor23 , Burning Full Fingers , TriforcePower1 , Theglassman12 , AnonymousBlank and Nedge1000 .
Neutral: Dragonmasterxyz and Hst master (but leaning towards agreeing).
Disagree...
Elsia's ship from chapter 2.
elsia's ship from chapter 12.
Also this might be a fake elsia based on how her ship looks both from outside to the inside compared to the first time we saw it.
If this is indeed the real elsia, then what if she has a clone ether gear. She would be able to clone...
Eden's zero is out on the korean scans for those that want spoiler.
This chapter has a lot of interresting information, we also get introduced to edens zero's power levels. shiki's ether level is 100.000 in his full gear mode.
How does this one work, since it's gonna be a huge problem if yuri was caught in it.
Crystal Cage: Generates a pyramid-like magic cage to imprison the opponent. The one being captured cannot use any mana energy resource.
One of nanoha's abilities.
Aside from natsu in his seven flame dragon mode, everyone else will get limited soul manipulation or limited soul absorption.
If you're curious for why natsu's seven flame dragon mode was excluded from this, it's because he was able to destroy acnologia's soul in their finale battle. So he...
@Rin
In fairy tail magic is the combination of the users ethernano, a piece of his soul and his will. We see this in 3 different places.
Ethernano: It's the energy in which mages/magical creatures use to preform magic, it's in the atmosphere and can be absorbed to restort magic power.
Soul...
@Rin
Destroying someone else's magic, will result in also destroying the soul inside the magic. This is indeed soul destruction. But since the soul that is being destroyed is only a small piece, it's becomes "limited" soul manipulation, and not soul manipulation.
@Rin
No one is argueing for non physical interaction on this thread, that's a whole another topic that needs a CRT of its own.
Also no one is giving them soul manipulation, rather we're giving them limited soul manipulation for being able to destroy a "piece" of soul inside a magic ability...
I'm not complaining about her actions at all, since it's part of her personality. What i'm angry about is the fact that she always acts like the victim of everything, characters like her don't even last that long in other stories.
I also get the feeling that she will do some heroic stuff at...
She has been nothing but selfish this whole time. She believes that everyone is using her, but it's actually her that is using everyone. She betrayed baam, yet acts like the victim.
Even if she does some heroic shit at the end of the series, i will still hate her character. 1 good action won't...
Baam who is the main character of the goddamn story does not have the amount of plot armor as rachel does and that's saying a lot.
But i think this has something to do with headon, i might be wrong tho.
I still think everyone in the verse should get non physical interaction because of the celestial spirits being real spirits, but that's a another arguement for a another day. I might make a CRT for it.
If you're able to destroy a soul, doesn't that mean you're able to interact with it...
They're not putting their whole soul inside their magic, that would just kill them. But rather a piece of it. We see this with atlas flames, and natsu's magic. They only contained a piece of the users soul.
@Antvasima
No one is saying that they can control souls, but rather they can destroy a...
When wendy was talking about atlas flames's magic in the giant viliage, she also talked about how his thoughts were based on his will.
So this brings us back to what makarov said about magic, and how they use their force of will.
So in fairy tail, magic seem to be more than just ethernano...
If each magical attack has a piece of the users soul contained inside it, and someone else is able to destroy his magic then that person has limited soul manipulation for being able to destroy the soul inside his magic. It's not that different then someone destroying a piece of roaming soul...