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  1. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Upgrades

    Shouldn't the Gods and Angels be at least high 3-A? If he was infinitely more powerful than them, I'd assume Beerus would be slightly more concerned or terrified of such ki.
  2. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Upgrades

    It's only logical it should scale to the other god tiers, it seemed to have been just Zamasu for several reasons...
  3. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    They're op tho
  4. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    I knew I wasn't the only one XD It was too damn sudden
  5. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    Whoa, don't take it personally, my apologies if I seemed too combative. I'm just saying everyone's displayed a counterargument towards that there's just no chance for such an upgrade...not right now that is. Isn't that a verse that literally transcends the regular dimensional scale? Anything is...
  6. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    I am not knowledgeable on that verse, what I do know is that Dragon Ball runs on purely A>B>C logic, which wouldn't exist anymore in terms of speed at least because everyone Base Goku and greater would have the same level of speed...Whis is stated to be the fastest being in U7 for a reason...
  7. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    @Master Xar Yeah about that, I've addressed them before to you. Do you honestly believe they thought it through? SSJ be like 50x infinity, and there would be no such thing as blitzing. Oh hey, I suppose Trunks acheived infinite speed as well right? There is way too damn much that contradicts...
  8. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    Well I agree Goku doesn't have infinite speed, but the hax resistance has been a thing for quite a while now. Whis even implies greater ki can overpower unique abilities. Goku wasn't faster than time when he countered TS, it was just his ki that enabled him to resist it. It's all kinda similar...
  9. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    How so? They needed an oxygenated arena and Vegeta died due to the vacuum of space. Ah screw it, DBS does whatever it damn wishes lol
  10. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    What the...Not this infinite speed argument again....
  11. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    And I think I agree, not possible for a 3-A character to display such a feat now is it?
  12. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    I believe people are getting low 2-C from the whole Zamasu affecting multiple timelines
  13. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    @Gokuiscool144 could you elaborate somewhat on the "Gohan foreshadowing" part?
  14. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Disscussion Thread 25

    So Zamasu was effecting both timelines...I just don't see how this one can be downplayed tbh, this is it XD
  15. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Top and God Tier small revision

    I'd consider them tier 2 AP due to similar reasoning, but yeah Multi-Universe range does make sense. It was rather odd that they decided not to explain the whole situation with the orbs, not even Goku felt the least bit surprised to question it? Eh...
  16. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread 24

    It wasn't accepted because it merely refers to Black's limited reactive evolution we're already familiar with, nwhich combined with immortality regen makes for a deadly combination as his power would be increasing without limits. I believe he is a 2-C character but not due to this reasoning
  17. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread 24

    Game characters include: Janemba, Demigra, Mira There are still canon characters besides Zen'o who COULD do it: Beerus & Champa (were going to), anyone greater than SSJG Goku(who could turn the universe into a void of nothingness) can. So pretty much all the top tiers.
  18. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread 24

    Vegito is definitely Multi-Universe level along with anyone who is equal to or superior to those two cats that could destroy two universes from just fighting....and perhaps anyone who is far stronger than the red haired ningen that was going cause the universe to turn into a void of nothingness...
  19. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread 24

    Alright, Vegito eh? Beerus and Whis and the other gods and angels better be described as ants in comparison to him, the potara multiplier is insane.
  20. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread 24

    I thought its only low 2-C if it's done on a universal scale? Because Black didn't and it's apparently considered unquantifiable right now.
  21. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

    Honestly, I think they became High 3-A back in BoG, with all the "turning the universe into a void of nothingness" and 2-C with Champa vs Beerus. It is somewhat understandable why they won't be upgraded here because they'll receive stomp matches, but I also agree with the above stated, it'll at...
  22. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

    I thought the HBTC was supposedly infinitely stretched or something, not sure why it's being dismissed here...
  23. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

    So now the most powerful characters of the Buu Saga can't even blow up a planet sized dimension? Well then
  24. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

    Woah, chill out there. I'll be honest, I don't exactly care if my comment bothered you, you said it like we've discussed this multiple times before and now it's drove you mad or something. Geez. Well if he did destroy it, I could explain why it wouldn't be inconsistent. I am patient for more...
  25. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

    Wait, why are people getting hyped for tier 2 after this episode? Even if the feats seemed obvious, I don't think this site is ever going to stop pulling the "outlier" card tbh....
  26. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    I thought it was quite unreasonable to deny such a feat....The other thread just surprised me Dragon Ball has always been about finite differences in power, never has that not been the case. There's no way to accept any 2-C feat this way, because it will be "infinitely times greater than what...
  27. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    The feat itself was low 2-C. I think it will remain "at least low 2-C" since this site doesn't really like using unknown SSJ multipliers. It's not 100% clear if it was done in base or SSJB, so it will still be low 2-C due to simply that.
  28. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    Vegeta's always considered Whis' advices, they've been told to train in base forms and in the anime, we often see just that. I think it's more likely to have been done in base, doesn't change too much, it's 2-C regardless.
  29. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    What's to say what we've previously seen onscreen were the greatest of their AP feats? They always tend to AoE control too. There's still a finite difference between SSJB and Base, not sure how it would be any more mathematically logical if he did it as an SSJB.
  30. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    I don't think they'll focus on elaborating on it. I think possibly 2-C is fine for now, believe the reasons to deny the feat have been dealt with already, but whatever...
  31. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    They've always shown to control that. SSJB Goku's manage to suppress himself to that of a Freiza soldier lol Who knows, I thought Zen'o residing in the center of all the universes, not sure. Nothing, just some "let's wait for further info" ones now, which I think is completely pointless...
  32. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    It was more likely to have been done from the inside. Vegeta's exited the time chamber several times before, not once has he accidentally blown up the building because he gained a far greater battle power. Besides, we know that AoE can be controlled via ki manipulation. Perhaps it could have...
  33. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    Yeah, but those are just baseless assumptions, I mean hows instant movement been catastrophic before? Lol A battle that takes place in an instant would mean they possessed infinite speed for sure. He still isn't suggested to be limitless though. They had to resort to Eastern Kaioshin's instant...
  34. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    I agree, it doesn't make sense for him to go outside just to blow up the place. I'm going to watch the part in subs, wondering what Dende stated after Vegeta departed.
  35. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    ....So what? If Whis had infinite speed how would he even suppress it? He'd be capable of travelling to any point instantaneously, which he clearly can't. If he could, there's absolutely no reason not to. Their speed is always slowed down for the audience, it's only logical. There wouldn't be...
  36. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    ....So what? If Whis had infinite speed how would he even suppress it? He'd be capable of travelling to any point instantaneously, which he clearly can't. If he could, there's absolutely no reason not to. Their speed is always slowed down for the audience, it's only logical. There wouldn't be...
  37. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    Yeah, I can only remember them training in base forms in the anime.
  38. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    Calling it a hyperbole would be merely downplaying it honestly. It should be at least similar to destroying an endlessly expansive universe's spacetime. If the statement's tone about the dimension being infinitely stretched sounded exaggerated, then yeah, it wouldn't be easily acceptable.
  39. Betanight

    Vegeta upgrade

    I don't think this will be regarded as an outlier, I mean how else can they even reach 2-C? And I agree with the explanation provided to support the feat. I believe Beerus should be at least 2-C via scaling. Whatever the saiyans can do, Beerus could do multiple times greater, since he was at...
  40. Betanight

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 22

    Makes sense. Also, don't forget the statement about Beerus and Champa being capable of ending both universes as a side effect of their battle. The fact that Beerus was at least 10 times stronger than SSJB Goku back then, I wouldn't mind Beerus at Multi-Universe level.
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