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  1. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Yeah we can close this. We can always discuss this in a new thread. Also Soda thanks for asking I’ve been absolutely slammed with two jobs and finishing my degree. Living the life basically lol. I do want to get more active in here again, though I’m not sure if I’ll be able to.
  2. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Lol are you guys being serious with this? He says Doppo doesn’t look any older than before (which he doesn’t) and that he’s as dangerous as ever (which is something nobody has ever denied). The argument has always been that Doppo got physically weaker but gained more experience and skills as...
  3. Amlad22

    The Chris Jericho Spam Will Never... Eeeeeeeverrr Stop! (Chris Jericho vs Baki Hanma)

    Soda soon for you could be next week or early 2023
  4. Amlad22

    The Chris Jericho Spam Will Never... Eeeeeeeverrr Stop! (Chris Jericho vs Baki Hanma)

    Real shit though how tf is 13 year old Baki getting up to 9-A 👀 If that’s the case then he AP stomps.
  5. Amlad22

    Let's get real about Baki

    There’s actually a surprising number of people who think Yujiro is 9-A or 8-C. Kinda funny seeing their poor attempts at debunking the multitude of feats above that level.
  6. Amlad22

    Let's get real about Baki

    Do I see High 8-C MT fighters coming soon 👀👀👀
  7. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Yeah might as well close this. We can wait for the next crt to discuss future issues
  8. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Absolutely we shouldn’t disregard every statement I didn’t mean to sound that way. Just that we shouldn’t take one sole statement and run with it to make massive changes to the verse especially in a scenario like this. If I was to sum up my take on this entire thread it’s basically that.
  9. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Fair assessment as always from you, Soda. I can agree with him having multiple keys then. Also the reason I say it’s unreliable is because Strydum himself is incredibly unreliable. Part of Venom’s last post which I’m sure you saw explains why Strydum is one of the most unreliable characters in...
  10. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Antvasima I believe as of right now those in agreement of Doppo getting weaker after his fight with Yujiro are myself, Kerr, LordGinSama and Soda. Twellas and Italian are against. However I believe everyone is in favour of Prime Doppo directly scaling to Yujiro and adding more keys for the...
  11. Amlad22

    Let's get real about Baki

    Great thread and I agree with your main 3 points. Some of the sub points are a bit off but that’s not really a big deal to me. We all need to be aware of these points with any future Baki crt’s. Baki is a very unique verse in regards to just about everything and this thread gets that point...
  12. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Antvasima We already came to the conclusion a few days ago that Doppo got weaker after his fight with Yujiro but slowly began regaining his strength over time. There’s no real need for us to reiterate the same points again. @NotoriouSoda What feats do you consider make him stronger in Dou...
  13. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Guys, how many times do I have to say it. Katsumi is NEVER stated to be superior to Prime Doppo. He’s only ever stated to be above MT Doppo who we’ve decided is not 7-C. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that. @NotoriouSoda Do you really think a SOO key is necessary? Doppo...
  14. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Agreed. Doppo should fully scale. Especially going off of the manga where he makes Yujiro bleed. Yujiro was stronger than him but the gap was actually not that big. Also I think we all can agree Yujiro grows in power over time (in both strength and skill), but just not to the degree that would...
  15. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Antvasima I already gave my side but here it is again. Prime Doppo exists due to multiple statements from the narrator and Doppo himself explaining that his fight with Yujiro would be the last time he could fight at his peak. Along with this, Doppo shows a massive drop in performance...
  16. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    With all due respect Soda your points about MT Doppo being the same power are entirely based on one statement about Yujiro’s growth that isn’t even 100% clear. For all we know Strydum could have just been talking about Yujiro’s skill and techniques growing with each day which is actually...
  17. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Doppo being 7-C in the MT would absolutely **** the scaling like crazy. Nearly the entire roster would scale. Aside from Filth and Amanai, Katsumi and Shibukawa are obvious ones which then opens up the door to people like Hanayama and Shinogi which opens the door to even more people from there...
  18. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Again, Strydum might be able to accurately say Yujiro has gotten stronger since his teenage years (obviously) but anything after the 13yo Baki arc is not something he could possibly know with full certainty. It’s assumptions at worst and unquantifiable at best.
  19. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    The only preposterous thing here is using a statement about an unquantifiable increase in power to boost a vast majority of the verse to far higher levels of power than they are.
  20. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Exactly right. We shouldn’t be treating Strydum of all people as if he’s an all knowing source of info.
  21. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Geez I missed a lot. Just want to make one point. Yujiro does grow stronger obviously, but it’s unquantifiable how much stronger he grows over time. All we know is that he’s an unknown amount stronger between his fight with Doppo and the MT. An unquantifiable strength boost doesn’t disprove my...
  22. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    It’s not headcanon when all the feats show Doppo being weaker. The Filth fight alone proves he got weaker, you don’t need to look any further. Prime Doppo was able to hurt Yujiro with punches to the face and body along with take many attacks without going down. Filth shattered his hand...
  23. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    I really don’t see how anyone could possibly believe that Doppo didn’t get weaker after his fight with Yujiro. All I’m seeing is an attempt to wank 99% of the verse into tier 7. I’ve made my points and debunked everything Twellas and ItalianGuy have said. There’s no point in me saying the same...
  24. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    None of my points were actually debunked but whatever you say. Doppo’s performances in the MT are proof enough that he got vastly weaker. Like I said, there’s an argument to be made with later series like Dou and Dou 2 but not during the MT or NGB. @ItalianGuy1234 There’s one mistake with...
  25. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @NotoriouSoda I mean I think this should be easy too I just disagree for all the reasons I’ve listed. I don’t believe Prime Doppo should be discarded. There’s an argument to be made for Dou Doppo scaling to his younger self but even then I think there’s more anti feats for that. I agree though...
  26. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Twellas chapter 274, page 3. Filth shatters his hand trying to punch Yujiro. It took me 5 minutes to find it. chapter 218, page 16. Doppo says Filth was too strong and his body instinctively used a technique It does not. It confirmed what I said that Doppo won against Filth due to his speed...
  27. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    For anyone doubting my claims of the Doppo and Filth fight. You can read yourself here: https://********.org/chapter/8f4eb54c-2b2d-419f-85db-0fda3e470a37/1 Doppo is very clearly physically inferior to Filth, something shown in the first two pages alone. Page 4 makes it clear that Doppo could...
  28. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Antvasima Aside from accepting the manga (aside from the blatant outliers and POS moments) nothing is really being changed yet.
  29. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @NotoriouSoda Fair. But there’s no reason to go any further than this. Most people can see that characters like Filth or Amanai are in no way comparable to Yujiro and should never scale to him. I mean just think, Filth couldn’t even scratch Yujiro with a punch yet he floored Doppo with the...
  30. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @Armorchompy This is also a possibility. I’d still say the correct way of looking at it is that the MT fighters (among many others) simply don’t scale to Yujiro in any way, shape or form. Baki and Jack were still getting one shot by Yujiro in the MT arc when he got serious and they’re...
  31. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    All I’m seeing here is a bad attempt to upgrade 99% of the verse to 7-C. Let’s try and make this clear, Prime Doppo scales to 7-C due to his fight with Yujiro. MT Doppo struggled with people who couldn’t even hurt Yujiro and got one shot by him casually. The gap is very clear. If I have the...
  32. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @NotoriouSoda Like I said, characters like Pickle and Musashi have feats of literally going toe to toe with Yujiro or with someone like Baki who has also faced Yujiro. The others like Filth, Amanai or Ali Jr don’t have this.
  33. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    Pickle, Baki and Prime Doppo have the feats of going toe to toe with Yujiro in some way. The others don’t. This is really basic stuff. As far as I remember it’s in both. At best Filth does zero damage with a direct punch and then gets one shot. You’re completely taking everything that happened...
  34. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    @NotoriouSoda Like I said pre MT Yujiro still has 7-C feats. The best MT feats are 9-A and they are done by characters when they’re serious. It’s not just that Doppo lost to people who aren’t Yujiro, it’s that he struggles and even losses to people who have feats far, far, far below what...
  35. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    They can’t be that strong because they have feats that put them far lower. Simple as that. It’s not hype, it’s feats. Pre MT Yujiro stopped an earthquake and is firmly in 7-C. Nobody in the MT showed anything close to that. I don’t even have to look further than one MT fight to see that Doppo...
  36. Amlad22

    Prime Doppo?

    I have to disagree immensely with this. The reason the Baki anime is currently used is not simply because Itagaki worked on it. It’s because it retconned a massive amount of feats even outside of Yujiro vs Doppo to better fit Itagaki’s later depiction of Yujiro and fixed many scaling issues that...
  37. Amlad22

    Motobe revisions (Baki)

    Let’s not get carried away on people scaling to 7-C for now. But yea this is all fine. Motobe got a lot stronger during the time skips so his AP increasing is fine for his second key.
  38. Amlad22

    Baki CRT 2: Son of Ogre

    Musashi’s physical stats are vastly inferior to Yujiro’s. We see this in their fight when Yujiro nearly one shots him with a slap. Musashi scales closer to Yujiro with his swords. Knowing this there’s nothing wrong with Hanayama scaling above Musashi and somewhat scaling to Yujiro. It still...
  39. Amlad22

    Baki CRT 2: Son of Ogre

    We shouldn’t confuse grip strength feats with striking feats. Yujiro and Pickle were pushing against one another which isn’t a lifting strength feat at all. Class M should really only be reserved for Nomi and possibly Yujiro since Baki considers him to be “possibly” the only person on the planet...
  40. Amlad22

    Baki CRT 2: Son of Ogre

    The scaling fits better with Itagaki’s view of the series which changed drastically in the later half of Grappler Baki, not mine. @NotoriouSoda What’s the scaling looking like right now? We really need to be careful here not to replicate what happened last time where everyone started scaling.
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