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  1. Ghostexorcist

    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    This thread was originally about his lifting strength. If you feel the information I provided is correct, please change his level from T Class to whatever is appropriate for lifting a chunk of the Universe. Also, per what I wrote earlier, I think his battle with heaven scared everyone in the...
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Bump
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    I asked for his input again.
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    My point is that this discussion is about the character from the novel. Even his article is named "Sun Wukong (myth)". His mythos comes primarily from said novel. Disregarding portions of the novel and any underlying religious meaning makes no sense.
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    That doesn't make any sense. You can't completely remove a character from it's original cultural/historical context. Anything based on such a stripped down version would be incorrect.
  6. Ghostexorcist

    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    The book does treat him as a full-fledged Buddha. For example, at the end, the entirety of the Buddhist pantheon gathers to chant a prayer in which they pay homage to the Buddhas of the past, present, and future, as well as Bodhisattvas and arhats. The chant for each goes "I submit to [Name of...
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    [/I][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The original Chinese version says "Ú®ÜÕñ®Õ£░" (jing tiandi), which means to "scare or alarm heaven and earth." I think this is just saying the battle scared everyone, not that it literally shook the universe. Like I stated above, he easily lifts the axis of the...
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    The info I provided is aimed mainly at his lifting strength. However, him surviving being crushed under Mount Tai, which is considered the heaviest thing imaginable in Chinese culture, could raise his durability. I'll leave that up to you guys.
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Bump
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    The focus here is his pre-Buddha feats. My blog entry only provides cultural-historical context for the mountains present in the episode in which his feat of strength takes place. Citing information about Mt. Sumeru from a modern dictionary of Buddhist terms is not the same as quoting from a...
  11. Ghostexorcist

    High 3-A (3D) Feats Thread

    Sun Wukong lifting a river is a misconception based on the idea that his staff anchored the Milky Way (Ch: Õñ®µ▓│, "Heavenly River"), which is itself based on a mistranslation of the original novel. See my revision thread here. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1942852
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    thank you
  13. Ghostexorcist

    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    I have, twice. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1944196
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Bump
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Ok, thank you. I'll contact him now
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Is Matt Blahblah9755? Sorry, I'm new here.
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    Sun Wukong's strength - Info from the book and cultural studies

    Hello all, I'm new to this wiki. I recently wrote two blog articles that I think users who like Sun Wukon might find interesting. I feel they have bearing on future battles, as well as the character's own article. I present my blogs below. The first shows how the idea that his staff anchored...
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    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    Sure, but I would note the inconsistancy of the source material since it's based on centuries old oral tales
  19. Ghostexorcist

    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    The problem is that the novel is very inconsistent with cosmic geography, as well as Monkey's strength. The novel describes the earth being comprised of four continents: East Purvavideha, West Aparagodaniya, South Jambudvipa, and North Uttarakuru (2012 revised edition, Vol. 1, p. 100). These...
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    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    Awersome. Thank you both for the information. I won't be taking part in any discussions over what character is stronger than another, but members are free to ask me questions about Sun Wukong.
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    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    By the way, this episode takes place before Monkey achieves Buddhahood. Does this site make a distinction between these two states? Also, I think it should be pointed out that Sumeru Mountain is literally the universe in Hindo-Buddhist cosmology. And holy mountains like Emei are considered to be...
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    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    This is my first time on the site and I don't know anything about power scaling. What does Class T mean? I imagine a regular user could provide a condensed explanation of that provided above.
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    Sun Wukong's Lifting Strength

    Hi, I happened upon this thread by accident. I'm actually a scholar of Journey to the West. Wukong does not lift the weight of a galaxy every time he picks up his staff. I believe this idea is linked to a mistranslation in the W.J.F. Jenner edition. The far more accurate Anthony C. Yu...
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