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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Let's try to keep all the GT10 convo past translation point in spoiler tags for the time being
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I thought this was just me. Glad to know I'm not crazy tbh OT: Yea, the issue with Spell of ROTA is that there's no direct power comparison like what Magick:Flaming_Sword got when introduced. It is the only attack in the fight that injured Dragon King... However Dragon King also has no direct...
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    To Aru Majutsu no Index: Fixing Issues with Accelerator

    Fighting opponents stronger than previous opponents alone doesn't seem indicative of an amp. For example, the Post Aiwass key seems to indicate his active Vector Control power somehow increased from Aiwass (OT19), but we have textual evidence in OT22 his Vector Control is still inferior to his...
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    To Aru Majutsu no Index: Fixing Issues with Accelerator

    Nah the word is fine, I mean do we have textual evidence or are we just guessing.
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    To Aru Majutsu no Index: Fixing Issues with Accelerator

    Assumes?
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    To Aru Majutsu no Index: Fixing Issues with Accelerator

    Since we're on the topic, can someone explain to me what the Post-Aiwass and Post-Qliphah Puzzle 545 keys mean as far as this increase in Vector Control AP indicated on the profile currently?
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Genesis Testament Volume 9 Cover https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322307000327/
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    GT9 Short Synopsis is out. js06 translation below incase you don't want to be spoiled. https://twitter.com/js_06/status/1714739042665840766?s=46 https://twitter.com/js_06/status/1714739043773075866?s=46
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Yea that's essentially it.
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    No, it's just comparing the stack of Phases which are piled up and are partitioned layers that influence each other and are yet separate closed realms to the Pao-Pei which are managed in categories so their effects don't interfere with one another. And like the microcosm/macrocosm and magic...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    GT9 in December according to the IF livestream. (No Degenki confirmation yet) NT1 (YenPress) in December too.
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Someone whose read some of it said she's kinda full of hot air. Her counter, the 13th Tarot ability seems to be similar to Hel. She manipulates all forms of deaths, turning death symbols (like Osiris' disremembering, Odin's impaling and so on) into her assets, using it in form offense and...
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/toaru-revisions-omnibus-edition.151843/post-5822051 Were you fine with this matter? You touched upon it briefly, but wanted to verify as we need a mod input.
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Narration says it's the only human technique that could plausibly counter 100% Othinus :shurgs: If you read their convo in NT10 before the first attack is thrown he's not particularly mad at all, but later we learn he angrily attacked first and that there's a contradiction between what high...
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Few things: a) It's stated a couple times the Blasting Rod combination has merit against both 100% Othinus and True Gremlin who mentally have absolute confidence in their power. b) Magic Gods weren't serious. High Priest particularly, his surface that didn't care much and is wholly unaware of...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Based on everything about her from GT5 she's probably still alive. The Picture Book Girl seems to act as something similar to an M-body for B (Backstage) Alice.
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Kinda, this is more saying if she could use her ability on herself she could give herself an accurate suggestion to become a Magic God, making that a task she would 100% succeed in doing.
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Let me rephrase, the counter arg says Endless Possibilities isn't passive probability manipulation and believes Gungnir was created because it has a probability ability that passively places Othinus at 100%, therefore she's the only Magic God with passive probability manipulation.
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    In case anyone missed it.
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Correct, but the disagreement is on whether passive probability manipulation is coming from Endless Possibilities (Native to all Magic Gods) or Gungnir itself (Specific to Othinus).
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Alright and it seems several of the other supporters disagree with you. So it looks like more staff input is needed.
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I don't know about High type regen, but there's a lot of quotes like this and characters from Kanzaki and Birdway to Aleister and Coronzon saying they can't be destroyed.
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    I think all counter args for the probability stuff were addressed quite a bit ago with some support. I'm also not quite sure about type-3, but I think you can do something with this quote:
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Has everything been decided here?
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    [Toaru] Removing one of Coronzon's High 1-C AP justifications

    I agree with the OP, it doesn't overcome Imagine Breaker due to raw power, but I think the reason given is Magick: Flaming Sword is a Magick attack used by Coronzon who exist beyond Horus during the Aeon of Horus so Imagine Breaker can't suppress it and when she loses the physical vessel needed...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I don't think there's any statement that says Magic Gods can't reach/enter the Pure World besides the obvious fact they can't fit in a certain world. Fairy Spell's advances are gradual so she would retain power for a time before it starts to really destroy her from the inside. Makes sense to me...
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Hmm? We've definitely seen that ALL her actions, endeavors, goals, magic... etc are impacted by her 50/50 dilemma. It even effects simple rock paper scissors with a child like you brought up. This is the Magic God characteristic that is passive. 50/50 Othinus' issue is she can't control the...
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    All Magic Gods have infinite possibilities and when complete, have full control over their power, 100% success. Their method of reaching 100% success doesn't particularly matter. 50/50 Othinus can't control her power, which is why she cant parse her infinite failure from her infinite success...
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    Toaru revisions, Omnibus edition

    Ehh, True Gremlin's first key should have the passive probability manipulation, control of the infinite possibilities they embody is inherent to a complete Magic God's existence. Gungnir isn't a passive automatic victory item that manipulates probability. Wielding Gungnir just allows 50/50...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    The first quote is more accurate, the second is an older fan translation. In context, an angel normally embodies absolute obedience to God so if one somehow went rogue and that angel acted or delivered God's divine judgment before its designated time, it could alter mankind's Final...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Tweets from Nogi about the new Metal Out chapter with machine translation. 4:36 AM · Feb 4, 2023 4:44 AM · Feb 4, 2023 (1) 4:39 AM · Feb 4, 2023 (2) 5:09 AM · Feb 4, 2023 4:48 AM · Feb 4, 2023 4:51 AM · Feb 4, 2023 4:58 AM · Feb 4, 2023 4:01 AM · Feb 5, 2023 4:08 AM · Feb 5, 2023 4:18...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    (Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 13, pg 44)
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    WWIII Misha is also much more durable than her wings. i.e., Shards of Curtana and Durendal could cleave the wings as easily as Yuisen, but couldn't even scratch the body. Probably a benefit of the external manifestation. Angel Fall Misha never really got to display durability feats while inside...
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    (Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 4, pg 79) (Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 21, pg 118) (Toaru Majutsu no Index Volume 21, pg 161)
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Hmmm... there was this quote, but it can be taken one of two ways. Also, they can obviously counter time manipulation, otherwise Magic Gods could write each other out of existence. Otherwise closest thing to acausality in the series is this.
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    [Toaru] Downgrading Magic Gods' High 1-C Tiering

    Been debated to death in the past, it was determined to just leave it at the highest thing he's dealt with.
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    [Toaru] Downgrading Magic Gods' High 1-C Tiering

    It looks like changes were already made, but... No to OP. Yes to removing High 1-C World Rejector like Curtana. No removing High 1-C Imagine Breaker, but if it will stop the silly matches than sure. (I think DT was fine with High 1-C IB)
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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

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    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    This convo is thonk but... NT22 RAW: Sometimes js06 or whoever does the transcribing makes typos, especially in the more recent volumes, when working quickly.
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