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I am not appealing to death of the author nor I am saying it is wrong because it is purely a narrative argument. I am saying that it is wrong as a narrative argument going by...
Lol.
This is where you come in and obfuscate my point. The issue is that Patry is putting it at literally the slowest of magics. Which would be contradicted as I outlined. Yami makes Dark Magic fast because of his physicals. Rhya, is not physically strong, he didn't make the top 11. Yet Rhya...
I added another point to the OP. Asta taking a much stronger attack from Dark Elf Patry and suffering less damage. Whereas Julius had his chest split open from a single attack. Both have defensive powers activated, Asta- Black Form Julius-Mana Zone.
A few months back, this CRT passed which led to a massive downgrade to the speed meta. There were some things that I do agree with about the thread. One being that the black clover speed range was too high for the site’s standards. One emphasis of the thread was that Light Magic is the Speed cap...
I will try and respond to this during the weekend.
I will say that I still disagree with pretty much everything, except I do think that, according to the standards of the site, the 100,000c+ scaling could be excessive.
What I disagree with is the LEVEL of the downgrade, and the...
But it is stated that he doubles magic. The argument in this CRT to counter that was that Zora didn't deny it because of the intensity of the situation. Not really a great argument, especially since it is contigent on the rest of the CRT, which isn't supported either.
Except the actual size of the doubled magic does increase as well. Indicating that there is an increase in the quantity of magic. Furthermore, when Zora doubles Langris' spatial magic, we can clearly see them being visibly larger than his. Langris then gets a magic power boost, making his own...
Leaning neutral on this passing for attack potency. But, tier-5 Joint Struggle arc Black Clover wouldn't be inconsistent. 5-B Black Clover nearly passed months ago, rejected by wonky logic like "the salamander may have only vaporized part of an ocean."
Fire spirit salamander has several High...
So the Clover Kingdom is a continet?
Did you not realize that how much magic you have is a determiner of how well you can use a magic stone? IF He has no magic then he is not getting proper use out of said magic stone.
let's not forget that Lumiere scales to Demon Licht, and Conrad's Compound...
Who far surpassed her power that defeated the demon in that arc?
They are not just magic because they leave behind skeletal remains. Also, Asta scales to what he fights with magic.
lol.
Cringe.
1. Conrad actually says that he was going to destroy the foundation of the continent.
2. Just because it is the highest level of spell doesn't mean that its automatically stronger. The potency of a forbidden magic spell would depend on the mana of the user. When Licht casted it, he had zero...
Agree with most of this. DIsagree that "True Devil's Bargain" is stronger than "False Devil's Bargain"
Movie Devil's Bargain Asta (false) has an additional horn, wing, and marking. I know you argue that because Asta could only use devil's bargain in the manga for 50 seconds means that it is a...
I don't see the difference. Both Patry and Rhya got an elven boost. He went from being weaker than Rhya as humans to being his equal as elves. Very minor point either way.
One thing to point out is that the Patry that Julius fights in the capital is considerably more powerful than the Patry that fought Yami/Asta in the cave. For one, Patry states himself that he is going to get more powerful so that he can defeat Julius. This means he'd be FTL while fighting...
I see it moreso as it's a rage boost because he just got pissed off and his power went higher and I think Charla just thought he was holding back. Could be that too though.
I'm not saying it would be only about strength. Killing Zagred would be encompassed within the statement naturally.
He fought better against Zagred because he was amped and had help.
Still, he failed to defeat him, and once Asta and Yuno unveiled their powerups, he pretty much stepped aside...
Are you implying that Zagred couldn't gather that Lumiere didn't want Licht to kill innocent people? Zagred is the person who intricately planned the demise of the elf clan.
Zagred is certainly more than smart enough to recognize that Lumiere would want to protect the citizens of the Clover...
It does.
Your idea of useless just doesn't work in the example. In the context of the Lumiere vs Demon Licht fight, Lumiere's whole goal was to not let Licht become a murderer and protect the Clover population. Damaging/obliterating Zagred would actually be useful at letting more clover...
Because he says that the Light Magic would be useless against him or wouldn't have worked on him at all. This means it wouldn't harm him, distract him, nor be used to slow him down. Any of these would be useful.
Zagred thinks he's considerably above pre-absorbtion Lumiere. But post-absorbtion...
This change to the entire scaling chain hinges on the notion that Demon Licht > Zagred, which is outweighed by the evidence I provided that it's the opposite. If there is no sufficient evidence provided that Demon Licht > Zagred, then the only thing that would change is a pre-absorption Lumiere...
That's fine.
You don't need to be affected by the other world to affect devils. You only need to be affected by the other world to destroy a devil's heart.
Here are non-arcane users damaging devils. Luck is not arcane and damaging Mid-Rank Devils. Nozel is not arcane and damaging Megicula...
Again, It's really not an issue of Elf-Massacre Lumiere being 1/4 the power of Demon Licht. I still disagree because of the reasons I stated above. I don't know what the exact rules on the wiki are regarding using the anime. But the manga doesn't show how Lumiere gets his injuries. The anime...
Demon Licht is NOT just Licht + Negative mana. Demon Licht is a Licht who had all of his magic power stolen by the royals and then used a magic stone to become a Demon. So that doesn't work as justification for Demon Licht being drastically more powerful than Lumiere, considering Base Licht and...
Here is the more literal translation. Even the officials already imply a connection considering his research is based on curses. But the more literal fanlation makes it even more damning.
Henry himself refers to it as an illness
Forbidden magic curses are often just called curses, too. Which...
I never assumed that all illnesses are curses. I already drew the specific connection.
I know that curses and forbidden magic curses are different. But It's a generalized term I'm using. Because they are often generalized by name in the series. I don't need to prove what your interpretation of...