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    Majin Buu ability addition

    Oh well, thanks for the talk king! Best of luck!
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    I said to ignore me!! Even if I win don't take it as a loss!
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    They are directly stated to have different sources of power entirely. It's important because the only times we see Fat Buu fight anybody, he is implied to get tired from physical damage, a trait Kid Buu never shows regardless of how much he's ripped apart, this is because he has a way more...
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    If you want to disregard the anime then I can Steelman you. It's fine. Originating from the same source does not mean they share the same qualities, it's actually your burden to prove different beings share the exact same qualities not mine. You and I could have originated from m-superstes...
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    Don't take what I say seriously. I'm just looking for smoke in general.
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    It's implied by Super Vegito that Super Buu might have limited regeneration in general, the only time we see Good Buu fight he has limited regen. Fat Buu =/= Good Buu, different beings even if they have somewhat similar personalities / appearances.
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    Majin Buu ability addition

    Good Buu CAN regenerate while fighting Kid Buu. So you'd have to discuss from there what the statement that "They can damage eachother" would mean. It can be anything, including or possible Vegeta's misconception of how Buu's regen works. In which Kid Buu simply wore down its stamina and beat...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    ? I guess making no argument is better than making a bad one, congrats on the improvement!
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    You realize he does get tired while using Kuramas chakra right? Stamina is needed to utilize Ninjutsu, what are you talking about? That's a basic concept outlined in Part 1. Also, no, you can focus your power on clones and waste said power, him using the chakra doesn't mean it is perpetually...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    How does back scaling cause any problems with the scaling chain, elaborate. Also you realize that saying the Bijuu are stronger causes narrative problems correct? Why doesn't Obito, Zetsu, or anybody with a valid opinion on the matter ever say they are more powerful? Wouldn't that be crucial...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    How does KCM1 Naruto who almost passed out from fatigued after almost solo stomping every Edo Tensei + Kage, fighting Nagato / Itachi, then having to fight every Jinchuuriki at once and then struggling to beat a Perfect Jinchuuriki a good argument? Sage Naruto also was fast enough to react...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    In the numerous fights with Shukaku rampaging and bloodlusted he never used a Bijuu Bomb? I thought this was a rationalist website, not an empircal one. Also, the Bijuu Bomb scalese to the Bijuu's durability and other attacks. I have ZERO idea why you're acting like their Bijuu Bomb is...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    How is that an "Exactly" "I have made a consistent case even disregarding the anime." "Exactly!!" ?
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    Sasori only held back once Chiyo brought out the mother and father puppets, he was monologuing how he wanted to kill Sakura and how she was insanely quick with the databooks stating this is due to her evasion, not Sasori's character. Them beating Sasori is due to his character, however them...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    The only anime filler is "Chiyo dodges Rasenshuriken from KCM Shadow Clone" but that is consistent with the manga since KCM Naruto fought her and Kimimaro and couldn't beat either of them. The anime also has good ties to being canon to the manga, which is its own argument. Regardless I have...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    Sasori > 3rd Kazekage > Rasa ~ War Arc Gaara > 1 Tails Rasa brawled the one tails with his Golden Sand and sealed him away constantly. Sasori losing to Chiyo and Sakura aren't anti-feats. Chiyo could dodge KCM Shadow Clone Naruto's Rasenshuriken while an Edo-Tensei and Sakura was...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    How does Kakuzu fight the 2 Tails that is fast enough to tag him without being durable or strong enough to fight it? What narrative implication is made that her size is relevant to her power or that she grew in strength? What statement is made by the cast to say this is the case?
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    He only states she feels different, but that's not in reference to the Wiki's claim that the Bijuu grew in strength. Even if Yugito is personally amped by Obito.
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    "Stronger than Jinchuuriki" doesn't need to imply they are stronger than every perfect Jinchuuriki ever. Unless you think Hidan > Killer Bee. Cringe. Yes, Hidan has insane durability, it's his gig. I agree that all of them are Bijuu Level, but your argumentation isn't optimal nor do I think...
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    Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade

    Hidan doesn't need to scale to the 2 Tails at all, and It's implied Kakuzu does all their heavy lifting. For all we know Hidan could've just been an immortal distraction to take attacks while Kakuzu blasted the 2 tails. Hidans stats don't need to be upgraded and its implied that Pain is in a...
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    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    No, Kurama is only saying that in reference to Naruto's ability to link the Nine Tails Chakra to the Shinobi Alliance, so all that would mean is KCM2 Naruto > Base Minato, nothing more.. (Minato literally dominates KCM shortly after this and surprises Kurama anyway) We also know that Base...
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    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    The 3rd Kazekage = Shiki argument is not valid, that's like saying that Kid Naruto's Rasengan is just as powerful as KCM2 Edo Minato's Rasengan, just because you use the same jutsu does not mean you have the same attack potency with said Jutsu. For example, Madara's Fire Style needs an entire...
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    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Once again I agree. The "Sock Puppet" cop out after I slapped that thread was honestly hilarious, I'm willing to call any one of them to prove I'm an individual if they claim it again on this thread.
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Apologies, I'm new to the quote+scan feature and put the same link in twice on accident. This is the scan I meant to put there.
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    It's fine, but please don't tell me I'm wrong when the evidence I'm providing is blatant and you don't have the ability to refute it accordingly. I am trying to be respectful. Sasuke being at 7-A was questioned by my post, my post still goes over Kakuzu but it also goes over Mid-Kage...
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    No, he blocks with his wing and it gets blown off. I notice you don't drop any links to your sources, I wonder why. Sasuke's Wing getting blown off is a debunk that Deidara's bomb isn't strong enough to kill Sasuke? What? Once again, where is Sasuke blocking bombs with Snakes? Why are you...
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Uh, have you actually ever seen Sasuke VS Deidara? Curse Mark 2 Sasuke only took one attack and he blocked it with his wings and one of them got blown off, he didn't get tagged afterthat. The Raikage landed a direct strike on Sasuke and Sasuke was fine, he didn't get hit after that. Going...
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Being immortal does not give you an Attack Potency Buff, and even then Kakuzu's Hearts can be destroyed, he's not true immortal. I have ZERO idea what godly hax you think Kakuzu has to defeat a Two Tails Perfect Jinchuuriki while being Town Level. Absurd.
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Overall I agree with what Noodles has put forward. I would like to add my own points for not only Kakuzu but many others being Bijuu level, as being Bijuu level in Naruto is honestly considered Mid Kage Level at this point, it isn't some godly accomplishment. For one, all the Akatsuki are...
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    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Why are you trying to contribute a counter to a Naruto AP thread when you don't even know basic lore of the verse? It's stated verbatim in Databook 3 that Kakuzu failed and the whole reason he learned all those forbidden jutsus and left the hidden waterfall was because of his failure to beat...
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