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Looking at raws it reads more that Mu thought it was odd that Shaka died and that everything had a deeper meaning as the reason for holding Aiolia back but yes Saga being stronger than Aiolia is proven enough just making things as correct as possible. .
Fair enough
Yes seems fine overall so...
Just a few things I want to point out, Aiolia did not use Lightning bolt his strongest technique he used lightning plasma.
Technically the three in terms of cosmo should be higher than normal given there senses were removed.
Milo did not take the full force of GE according to him...
Very nicely detailed blog, everything seems seems reasonable for the most part so before this thread goes on to long and everyone goes insane in the Membrane I agree.
Seems simple enough, those are pretty direct references linking cosmo to speed, not sure to what degree but if it's infinite then of course the speed would have to be as well.
Following this long thread, going over the back and forth points. I still agree with the upgrades. The opposing side seems to still be using fairly weak arguments, and points to me. So I still agree with Upgrade, and Matt.
TheUpgradeManHaHaxD has done very well and spoke in detail refuting, and debunking multiple, if not all, points no matter how minor and borderline nonsensical the points are. While you may not agree with everything he says, to think Upgrade hasn't, or ignoring points, or incapable of refuting...
Alright with logical cross-scale and cross-reference from Ep G and golden Age, to me Tier 3-A possibly Low 2-C for certain gold saints.
Peak bronze saints pre GA low 2-C.
Lol who was the snitch? Jk
Anyway Malice or ill intent is not a easy thing to see when someone is a least smart enough to pretend to be nice and logical when they are basically needlessly stonewalling. All that being said everyone play nice.
Getting back on the subject and ignoring the tiresome stawmaning and downplaying.
Some of the reasons for the upgrade I disagree with but have always considered the stronger classic gold saints at peak to be universal especially with miracles going by some feats you have presented.
Using...
What's stated in the manga>>>>>>>>>>old Databooks and side material, it's just kinda that simple.
As for where the soul goes it seems it goes to a underworld of the past or other universe as you can see Seiya in ND.
Have to agree with Alon a bit, scaling the big bang comment simply mkes no sense in context.
I would also suggest not cross-scaling to much it creates a lot of confusion. That being said Hades did create the underworld, he stated that himself and it was going to fall apart without him.
I disagree with Taurus and somewhat Dragon Shiryu and Milo. Taurus was more of an explanation of how cosmo and the 7th sense works. Dragon was more Him directing the force with his cosmo. Milo I believe rather than just defend against GE he defended and avoided part of it.
Ikki awakens the...
Depends on what you mean by High Tier, if by comparable to golds then Only Orphee and the judge. Marin and shian are surely strong by silver saint standards.
The reason for making shun female don't mke a lot of sense to be givin Sho is a thing. Don't see how he can even nearly be the same character. Cgi animation looked braraly passible and the Voice Acting is not doing it for me. Desgin was fairly sold. Don't like the lack of blood but more than...
The idea comes from treating SS like any other series when judging if something is cononical by reasonble standards. Who publishes what really dosen't matter.
That being said everything being canon is how Matt treats the series and he's been the main SS guy for a while now so we go with him...
Having a multiverse itself does noy automaticlly make everything canon, just opens the possibility. I would say it's it's possible there are multible multiverses. Overall it makes scaling less ridiculous.
Ep G I would say is the strongest, possibly Omega with it being the latest with mix of...
"The absense of Hades in the main timeline is provoking the universes to converge.
Hades Shun from Chaos reality was holding it together with his chains. Chains similar to Shun of this timeline.
Leo Zeus wrecked shit and Those chains."
Best way I seen it explained. Would assume at lest...
Without jumping ahead, someone somehow is causing at lest the normal world, chaos world and hades to collide and possibly be destroyed with hades holding it back.
You can scale certain things from classic to g/GA givan it's part of the manga universe. In many area's, the gold saints in GA in that time peried are upgraded and stronger so have to b carful what you scale.
Some news. https://withthewill.net/threads/20826-More-Survive-Details-from-Extended-Famitsu-Interview-with-producers-Habu-amp-Tsuzuki
Interesting that he wants to make an online game.