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  1. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Is there a specific part that needs to be calced? Idk, his reactions scaling to his attack speed made sense to me because he was physically moving to attack at SoL speeds, rather than shooting a SoL projectile. If it was the latter, I could why his reactions wouldn't necessarily scale to his...
  2. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I'm pretty sure Lilith's miracle was a different thing from Alice's and Fiamma's. With Alice, it specifically refers to her special abilities, all of which have been named (Walking, Crawling, Flicking etc), and with Fiamma, it was referring to miracles performed by Jesus in the bible. Kamachi...
  3. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    I see Well, that aside, what's your opinion on everything else proposed?
  4. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Thanks. Added
  5. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    CRT's done. Hope I didn't miss anything. https://vsbattles.com/threads/alice-anotherbible-toaru-revision.167642/
  6. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Votes: Proposed Tier & AP: Agree: @Axscell ,@FantaRin_The_First , @Piamma , @Aseka , @StrangerALover , @GunTish , @KingTempest Disagree: Neutral: High 1-B Proposal: Agree: @Piamma , @StrangerALover Disagree: @Everything12 , @XDragnoir , @GunTish , @KingTempest Neutral: @Axscell ...
  7. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    This CRT will feature additions and changes for Alice Anotherbible from Toaru Majutsu no Index. Tier Proposal: At least 9B Physically as Child Alice, At least 5B Physically as Inner Alice, far higher with Grabbing, At least High 1-C, likely far higher with Live Adventures in Wonderland...
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  8. Axscell

    "Let's get to the point" Minor ToAru Revision

    As long as there's no statements that contradict the SoL Lightning, I agree. (Who's gonna scale to this, other than Touma & Gunha?) Not so big on calculations myself, but they seem okay. So yeah, agree with everything IG
  9. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Yeah, you're right. I was more so going off of this: She talks about destroying the world, but no mention of her going with it.
  10. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Almost done with the CRT. Just the resistances and a few changes to go. Is this okay for Alice's durability?
  11. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Yep, pretty much
  12. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Nothing, other than cement her as the most disappointing Transcendent we've seen so far. Jokes aside, this is pretty much the extent of everything she did or at least tried to do:
  13. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    In the case of 1-5, I'm sure I've not listed everything, so feel free to add to the list
  14. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Okay, so just to list down the resistances we have for her so far; Resistance: 1. Time Stop: (Is stated to have total control over time, and is able to move and act freely within stopped time.) Resistance to Transcendents' abilities: 2. Fate Manipulation: (Cannot be affected by Vidhatri's...
  15. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Alright. Makes sense, I suppose. Current AP rating (in the CRT) should be fine then.
  16. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    This is one quote from the LN regarding that. It straight up states that she's immune to all types of internal damage: Should be enough for resistance, I think.
  17. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Could be, but it was never specified.
  18. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Seeing as there is a whole difference of physical AP and abilities (miracles), shouldn't we just make a separate key? i.e. This is what I currently have for her AP/Tier in the CRT, without separate keys: Idk, seems like it could come across a bit messy and confusing to others.
  19. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Okay. That should be easy enough. Idk about that tbh. Seemed like the only difference between the two was her access to miracles. Is that enough to require a separate key?
  20. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Gonna have to revisit and reread those parts. That should indicate resistance, right? Aside from that we also have passages like this one, among others, that reiterate that the Transcendents are essentially helpless against Alice: Who's the Sukuna ripoff and Salome repackage? 😭
  21. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    What speed do we place Trismegistus at (specifically his sword slashes)? I'm trying to scale Alice's speed, and he's the closest we've got to a speed scaling for her. There is also CRC who was able to react a light-speed gun IIRC, and Alice was able to blitz him (scaling is a bit weaker here)...
  22. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Maybe they can be listed under her equipments? And under her abilities, we can specify which specific abilities require which equipment. Similar to what I did with Time Travel for this profile.
  23. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Oh, I see. Didn't realize they had been termed that (They're also referred to as Wonders apparently, so we'll have to decide on that too). Do they really have any distinct enough abilities to necessitate a separate P&A section for them? Also, weren't most of their abilities purely physical (no...
  24. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Noted. By Alice Series, are you referring to her miracles (walking, crawling, grabbing etc)? I was already thinking of separating those from her Live Adventures in Wonderland ability/feats.
  25. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I'm currently making the CRT (in a sandbox) for changes and additions to be made for Alice's profile. Feel free to add suggestions and any extra information that I failed to mention in my previous post regarding her feats.
  26. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Because Kamachi is confused, and can't conclusively decide what a phase is.
  27. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    As for Alice, I'd still prefer to stick to a tier rating of At least High 1-C, likely/possibly far higher, as it's the safest and doesn't really rely on any assumptions. But there's no harm in suggesting the Hilbert Space stuff (in the CRT) since several here are adamant and seem convinced by...
  28. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Some additions for the Transcendents from GT10 (we still don't have profiles for them, right?): 1. Mind Manipulation?: Blodeuwedd's ability to control all living beings (pretty sure there was a mention of it being on a planetary scale somewhere, but I couldn't find it) 2. Spatial...
  29. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Yeah, fate manipulation sounds fitting. Perhaps something like "Death Manipulation via Fate Manipulation"? He is only dying as a result of her "prophecy" after all.
  30. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    It's non canon to Toaru though. Anyway, can I see the mention just for reference?
  31. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I don't remember von Neumann and Hilbert space being directly mentioned in Toaru tbh. The Copenhagen Interpretation sure. I suppose a connection can be made as the Copenhagen Interpretation and Hilbert Space are intrinsically linked. It'd have to put to the vote in a CRT in the end. I'll pitch...
  32. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Idk if just the mention of quantum theory would be enough for that kind of upgrade, without further elaboration. The quantum theory statement itself is kinda vague, and doesn't go into much detail, as quantum theory is a very broad terminology, and could refer to anything from electromagnetism...
  33. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Nah. The LN heavily implied that it was her "suggestion" that caused it. As you can see here, if she hadn't suggested him dying, he wouldn't really have died. Plus the nature of his death wasn't exactly natural or of him succumbing to his injuries, lending more credence to the idea that she's...
  34. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Here's all the major feats that I've compiled for Alice from GT-10: 1. Social Influencing/Mind Manipulation: She has insane passive social influencing bordering on mental manipulation. 2. She has the power to make any theory that has ever been proposed a reality 3. At least High 1-C...
  35. Axscell

    Does this grant any tier?

    This makes sense. The ability is rather NFL tbf. I suppose it would be best then to place her at whatever the highest rating the verse currently is, and maybe add a likely higher to go along with it.
  36. Axscell

    Does this grant any tier?

    The following is a description of a certain character's capability. I'm wondering if it grants any tier, or maybe a likely/possibly. I'm thinking Low 1-A due to similar reason to the Downstreamers, but I'd like to hear more opinions.
  37. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Do you guys wanna proceed with drafting a CRT for changes to implement and profiles to make from the recent volumes (GT9 & 10), or do you wanna hold off on the idea for a bit (for one reason or the other)?
  38. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Gonna need a CRT for that, I think. I've compiled some of her (along with the other transcendents) feats, so I could assist if needed.
  39. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Finally finished the latest volume. Good to see the Transcendents actually somewhat live up to their hype. Here's my personal ranking of the Transcendents based on how impressive they've been (excluding Alice and Anna): 1. Vidhathri 2. Good Old Mary / Trismegistus 3. Blodeuwedd / Mut Thebes 4...
  40. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Not really, no. The mere virtue of Kabbalah being used in Toaru isn't going to be enough to grant it any tier tbh, let alone 1-A. Every work of fiction has its own way of portraying a certain idea, so you can't give one series a certain tier just because it uses a concept that some other verse...
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