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I just found a feat that could be very impressive, depending on how we choose to handle it.
Either Hermes or Zeus seemingly turns it from day to night.
Oh yeah, speaking of translations, I found the actual original Japanese text if anyone knows how to translate it.
I think we're still deciding on what level characters will be Pre-PPT?
Tier 0 may need to be removed from Tufto's Scarlet King, as his feat of countering I.H. Pickman's 001 has seemingly been removed from Ihp/Locke's 001 in a rewrite, likely due to it not being Keter.
"There is a theory that breaking the seal on the forbidden spell 'Owanimo' has caused Arle's thoughts to wander space-time aimlessly. Though originally without form, they have now materialized into human shape, or so they say."
Implying that Arle was able to turn her formless thoughts into a...
Lack of evidence I could find, mostly. That works though.
Probably no to Astral Projection though, given even the thing itself calls it a mere theory without any proof behind it. Though if we did accept it I think that would also give pretty much everyone Low-Godly?
Alright, this specific feat is VERY reliant on wording, so ideally we should find the original Japanese text and translate it. But I can't even find the original text, not to mention find someone who can translate it.
Good news, I finally found a solid Puyo Puyo speed feat beyond "just" FTL.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Smashor/Risekuma%27s_potion_launches_some_people_to_another_planet
I just gotta get it evaluated.
Do we agree for 2-C for just the god tiers, or is the main cast scaling to that good enough to add so long as I can get proof of them scaling to the likes of Arle in PPT2?
Moebius probably shouldn't be included in that matchup, in my opinion. Moebius should only be included if that type of large-scale reality warping is part of the connections, since I'm pretty sure Jean Grey is the only Gunvolt matchup that I know of that can beat GV with Moebius.
Disagree extremely hard with the idea of an infinite amount of 4D space implies 5D space. There's also very little implying that the Sonic's world somehow transcends the Arabian Nights, it seems more likely that it's simply an alternate reality Sonic was dragged into (Similar to Camelot)
I hate to be that guy but an infinite amount of 4D space does not imply 5D space. At all. Nor does an infinite amount of 5D space imply 6D space. I have no idea where any of you are getting this from.
Hard disagree.
Regardless of weather or not this revision goes through, I think I might be honest-to-god leaving the wiki (With the sole exception of working on Gunvolt profiles because I don't want Smashtwig to deal with that on his own, and MAYBE developing Puyo Puyo because that verse is criminally...
Mainly because this revision clearly holds Mario to different standards from other verses. Sure, current Mario isn't great, but this isn't better.
Like, these are VSBW's outlier standards:
There are no hard standards for outliers and consistency. This isn't bringing Mario up to standard, this...
And frankly, I completely understand this take.
The downgrades in this thread are blatantly holding Mario to a different standard to how over 90% of the wiki is held, regardless of what the Wiki's standards officially are. If every verse was held to this same standard, Planet level basically...
This is the same exact argument as "Kratos can't break a wooden door".
Have you considered the possibility that they're just bombs that are capable of damaging Bowser? Like, if we can get Multi-Continental guns in Final Fantasy 7, this isn't anything resembling unreasonable.
So why can't we...
I look away for five seconds. Alright, let me just look at these anti-feats real quick one-by-one.
Mario Party:
Ultimately the Mario cast still survives all this, and the main reason they get hurt is either Game Mechanics so that the minigame can happen or for the sake of comedy. Mario Party is...
An entire key for a single ability that was done by empowering Sage? Heck no.
The three together empowering Sage is likely what allowed it, given similar empowerment is what enabled Super Sonic 2 and the like. They likely cannot make the forcefields on their own, and it's likely none of them...
Like, I can buy Low 2-C (Though I do think that idea is made harder to justify by Classic/Adventure Super Sonic having 2-B/2-A ends). This is straight up absurdism of the highest value.
Super Egg Robot is not a Super Sonic level threat. Not yet on this website, and never if I have any say in it.
Like, Sonic briefly not instantly dying to Super Sonic level threats is not a basis for scaling if you're using that.
Dear lord no. How on earth have we gotten to this point?!
Let's start with Void. It's barely a direct fight. Void mainly attacks by dropping rocks, and is damaged by pressing buttons in the arena. Sure, Void uses some lasers and shockwaves, but it's mainly falling rocks. And Sonic cannot damage...
I know that someone dodging an attack that erases a spacetime can be considered immeasurable. Is that just weird standards for the verse in question (Undertale), special circumstances, or just straight-up not comparable?