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@ProfessorKukui4Life
Eh, have you read my comment? I specifically said to write an explanation saying it only nullifies energy attacks. With that there, how can you expect people to wank?
I'm pretty sure Energy Nullification falls under Power Nullification. They're fundamentally the same, nullifying a kind, multiple or all kinds of powers. Goku, as shown with UI, nullified Jiren's energy with relative ease, the same as Beerus' nullification of the universe destroying energy.
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@OpMasada
Correction, Demiurge can mind control those who are below level 40.
Also, The item in question that allowed Jircniv to resist Demiurge's mind control was made by Wild Magic. A completely different magic system from the one Ainz, Demiurge and co use. The idea behind Wild Magic is that...
@Dzhindzholia
There is no proof of that. The aura might negate physical attacks as well, just that Toppo didn't want to risk erasing them, and thus getting disqualified.
@AKM
Well, I don't know about that. The abilities doesn't concern Toppo, and I'm pretty sure we've got enough info to warrant some ability additions...
Beerus outright stated that it's Hakai energy when Frieza shot that enegy beam at Toppo and dispersed, there's no denying it.
It should also be noted that Toppo performed all of those feats (Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Aura) right after he trasnformed into a GoD...
Count my vote too, Akreious. From what I understood so far in this thread, Uxie's only way of winning is through his Memory Manipulation, which FW arguably has resistance against, while the latter has numerous ways of dealing with the former, besides his Mid-Godly Regenration. I vote for FW...
I don't think that's the case @Kuku4Life. Zen'o is rated as 2-C for the very reason you claim they rejected, and that is the Afterlifes being seperate.
Matthew... Again with this whole "this why the can fly across universes"? You SERIOUSLY think this should be among the reasons justifying the universes being connected?
How isn't space-time affected? Vados explicitly stated that a fight between Beerus and champa would mean the annihilation of both Universe 6 and Universe 7.
This is entirely different from when Goku clashed with Beers, because not only did they mention 2 universes here, but those 2 universes...
I thought the only reason this wasn't accepted is because the 12 universes are connected by 1 space-time continuum, not because "space-time wasn't explicitly mentioned in the statement of Beerus and Champa destroying both their respective universes."
A year old thread, damn.
Anyways. Monarch, if this is base Raizel, then how is his stats above Shalltear's? Who's at least 6-C against High 7-A?
Second, iirc shalltear is supposed to have complete mind manipulation immunity, not just resistance as said in her profile (idk why). Downfall of...
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot wrote
Hardly. Demigra is like Flowey-lite. Even for all his talk, his time manipulation is pretty mediocre.
Hardly? Soul Manipulation (both have it). Time Travel and Time Manipulation (both have it). Reality Warping (both have it). Time Pardox Immunty (both have it)...
Just thought it's a pretty good matchup for the Grand Preist, so why not?
Low 2-C for Master Hand.
Speed equalized and in character.
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Daishinka: 0
Master Hand: 0
He said his POWER felt different. But he's obviously referring to strength, because he outright says "He's strong. Plain and simple". Then Whis goes on on how he reached the level of a GoD or perhaps even surpassed it.
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^ All that while...
Kai stated he was stronger than anyone they've faced while Jiren and Goku were redirecting the SB back and forth at eachother, and that was when Whis stated he was far from using his full power. Aka, supressed Jiren >> Infinite Zamasu.
Jiren was heavily supressed against Goku before going UI (noted by Whis while stating he surpassed the level of a GoD) when Supreme Kai said he was different from anyone they've ever faced. Thus at full power, he would most likely dwarf Zamasu in that regard.
Except it doesn't go on. Goku's stats rise slower than what Lightning can debuff him for. The numbers on her debuffing spells are significant enough to make a difference on the first time cast let alone multiple casts and multiple types. Yes Goku can keep up to an extent, but not for long. And...
You're completely missing the point about the reactive evolution. He's not developing any resistances to anything, it's just stat and reflex boosting.
And what did I say in regards to that? "This is a form of reactive evolution".
You fail to realize that while Goku's stats rise slowly...
@ScarletFirefly
Goku's reactive evolution is just another fancy word for Zenkai and gives off the wrong message (which is why I was against this wording in the first place). All it does it make him stronger during the course of the fight
Piccolo specifically stated that Goku's moves were...