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  1. Creyzi4zb12

    Android 17 vs Hit

    But he didn't fight the weaker Jiren, so you can't really compare performaces.
  2. Creyzi4zb12

    Super Shenron vs GER (Giorno)

    Some random DB mook decides to make a wish that Super Shenron defeats GER. - Fight starts after the wish has been made - random mook not included in the fight - both in character
  3. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Goku

    Theglassman12 wrote: Goku's resistant to timestop. Probably never. When the **** was that time stop resistance approved in a debate anyway? Every time it's used the opposing side would just say, "he can't resist this kind of timestop" Might as well remove that ability from the wiki-page...
  4. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Is there even any proof that novel DIO has universal level AP in a non hax state? Surviving Made in Heaven doesn't really mean you have universal AP in physical scale. This is a case where physical beats hax since DIO has to get past Jiren's physical shield to do his hax.
  5. Creyzi4zb12

    One of the most Haxed Dragon Ball Characters fights a guy who no longer loses to Dog Spelled Backwards

    NObody can touch Hit unless they have any portal creating abilities
  6. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Hit has different time-stop abilities. His range should also be larger than Dio's considering Dragonball has 12 universes. His more powerful time-stop abilities are also able to affect people who have resistance to time-stop. Hit has 3 variations of Time Stop, each one better than the other...
  7. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    That's an unfair claim. Source? Pretty sure they affected everybody. Everybody was seing Hit teleport out of nowhere. Hit's time skip doesn't even last one second, so there's no way there's any evidence people were moving during that time period from such a short time (anime cannot afford...
  8. Creyzi4zb12

    Range/Scale of Hit's Time Skip

    A few kilometers due to it not working on Jiren? THat doesn't make any sense (your logic). If the range is not stated then it should be assumed that Hit affects all the time in all 12 Universes. That should be way above a few kilometers.
  9. Creyzi4zb12

    Range/Scale of Hit's Time Skip

    So what is the range/scaling of Hit's Time Skip? Can he affect the entire 12 universes of Dragonball with the ability? Shouldn't this give him multi-universe scale time skip?
  10. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    So Dio only has country+ level AP when hax doesn't count. For Dio's hax to work he has to get past Jiren's barrier. Dio hasn't shown any physical durability that can get past the barrier so he should lose this.
  11. Creyzi4zb12

    telekinetic strength = telepathic resistance

    I know they are different. But they are also similar in a sense that they use your mind. Good enough telekinesis is equivalent to a strong mind. A strong mind equals tp resistance. And I wouldn't call Nate Grey's mind hax weak....compared to Luke's? This is not the only time it happens as well.
  12. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Kars kinda has like shitty durability (not even planet level). How did Dio get Universal+ AP if that's the case?
  13. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    How did they fight? Were they punching each other out, or using their abilities? Also, Xenoverse/Online/Heroes dragonball goes around multiversal
  14. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    You mean, the Dio from the novels? So what kind of canon is allowed on Dragonball side? Is Dragonball Heroes/Xenoverse 2 allowed?
  15. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Said barrier also blocks physical attacks that are universal in Nature. Does Dio have Universal Level physical attacks? Dio's punches are City Block Class with The World Ultimate. Dio disintegrates himself by getting close to Jiren. Dio by himself is low 2-c, his stand is building level but...
  16. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Said barrier also blocks physical attacks that are universal in Nature. Does Dio have Universal Level physical attacks? Dio's punches are City Block Class with The World Ultimate. Dio disintegrates himself by getting close to Jiren.
  17. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    Jiren still has his barrier. How can Dio get past that?
  18. Creyzi4zb12

    Dio Brando vs Jiren

    There's also Jiren's barrier, which is on all the time. Even Universal attacks don't go past in it. Dio would only hurt himself/disintegrate if he tries to punch or get close to Jiren. Plus Jiren would resist the time-stop. I'm going with Jiren
  19. Creyzi4zb12

    telekinetic strength = telepathic resistance

    In fiction, most telepathic abilities have been resisted by sheer willpower alone. Verses like Marvel shows off willpower by weaker opponents shrugging of mind-**** attacks. Like Norman Osborn...
  20. Creyzi4zb12

    Is Saint Seiya wanked/overrated?

    Saint Seiya is probably overrated due to the fact that people think there is no such thing as hyperbole in it. A character statement like "Faster than the expansion of the UNiverse" is automatically taken as legit. OTOH: Cell's Solar Kamehameha is not legit since it's a character statement, and...
  21. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    Yeah, that was my mistake. Though I think it's kinda weird why Beerus would not use Hakai on Goku
  22. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    ============== It doesn't matter if it's a single timeline, since the timeline of Dragonball covers up a bigger volume compared to others, then it can boast itself as having higher AOE than others. Which is where the timehax having higher scale comes from. Also, the manga version was kinda...
  23. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    A different topic:
  24. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    It has bigger scale and range because it has the opportunity to affect more space compared to other verses with only 1 Universe. It's definitely not a bad timestop. It's actually in line with the top tiers out there. True, it has lesser duration than other kinds of timestop. But it has a bigger...
  25. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    Multiversal range and Multiversal Scale would just be the same. Unless you're talking about a different timeline, then no, there's no indication of them being able to do that. DBS has 12 universes; their time abilities are 12 times higher in scale and/or range (or simply just better) than any...
  26. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    can you show proof it seals the soul cause i only see a physical body being sealed? I don't think there's any indication of that, but even if it's not a soul resisting attack it's still considered hax resistance. ======= = = There's also the indication that time-abilities in DragonBall are...
  27. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    Mafuba is the very definiton of a soul sealing attack. And weaker Z characters have resisted/and even reversed it easily. Zamasu gets out of it with ease. So at least that's an implication that Z characters have resistance against soul sealing/soul attacks.
  28. Creyzi4zb12

    About Goku's Hax Resistance

    Current characters in Dragonball Super have shown hax resistant capabilities considering they block Aura Slide attacks with their bodies. Aura slide was capable of opening up dimensions, and other sorts of bullshit hax. It's pretty much safe to assume that they now have hax resistance.
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