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Carrot takes this, superior race. miriko isn't a mink, just a furry. Carrot displayed elegant skills to dodge a swing mid attack from the almighty Roronoa Zoro. And i end my argument here.
Speed difference Wouldn't matter much after Haki Bloom kicks in. Plus Zoro has always shown to be able to react to those faster than him with his precog.
They did not fight against each other they thought with each other.
Lai always blitzes it's target no matter what. Nobody has escaped lai and it was used on ppl much faster than himself.
They do not. There's a difference between them and a large gap at that. Just because someone has precog doesn't mean they equal in that area. In op the better your precog the...
Finally.
Voting for Zoro.
Reasons...
•higher AP amps
•better Speed amps
•Blitz with lai which can dura neg
•better swordsmanship (has been shown numerous times overwhelming most swordsmans in the verse casually)
•higher battle Iq
•much better precog (all forms of Observation haki) plus...
Oh and remove my vote. Ima still argue for marco either way because he's my bird boy. like i said somewhere else....
Theres more detailed proof of marco in that thread than there is for sanji. "Sanji enters opposite swirly mode and blitz, marco can't see him, Sanji one shots" sanji is clearly...
I'll give you this. However he was in his transitioning stages.
There's not even much change between post ts and pre ts admirals. But all we know is that they're and will always be >>> King and queen. And why wouldn't the admirals be faster? Does queen have a databook implying he's the fastest...
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A statemate with an admiral who is >>> a yk 2 commander???????
Again, marco was just simply faster and did not miss a beat within his attacks. Which was why we see him on top most of the time in the duels.
His expression says it all. He was calm and collective throughout the fight than...
Better versatility, better experience as we have seen wehn both had their fair share of battle against 2 yonko commanders, sanji did not last a second against both and was floored flat out moments after marco was floored. Ch 1022 page 10.
again, marco was able to contend with admirals much...
It does to me. In marco's favour.
Both had an even clash and was playing around with each other at 1st. 2nd engagement. Both couldn't do anything to each other till marco got distracted and tagged by sea stone.
no it does not in the slightest because marco's intension was not to defeat king...
The fights were offscreened and doesn't take away from anything. Just behind king is King's aerial force accompanying King in his fight. Kings aerial force were gone, nowhere to be seen afterwards. Thats just oda giving us snippets. Marco has been fighting King and queen from ch 1000 till 1007...
He was fighting two commanders for the duration of the entire supernova Roofpiece. 1 of them being a lunarian(aka king)
People are forgetting that marco wasn't really stressing or taking his fights as serious as he should against king or queen. His whole point of being there was just to help...
Sanji's haki has not grown since beginning of timeskip as i said. All his haki keys should be the same as no evidence supporting his haki has grown since then. He failed to contend with vergo, thus breaking a leg 🦵, he failed to compete in a physical altercation with doffy, he failed to even...
No unnecessary arguments here, pls refrain from it. My vote still stands as sanji has no wincons other than his AP. But AP isn't everything.
I'll list my reasonings as to why Marco takes this mid diff.
- Marco more experienced and better skilled fighter. Has fought fighters much stronger...
Sanji doesn't have any good Arm haki feats to compare himself to marco.
And for instance. Raid suit sanji got outclassed in aerial combat against king, judge & doffy. So his aerial combat isn't up to standards as it should be. However Marco has beaten/evenly matched the best such as kizaru and...
His speed wouldn't play a huge factor considering marco kept pace with King and Queen who have tagged Sanji.
Marco kept pace with kizaru who is >> Sanji, king and queen. Also Marco intercepted his laser beam from a distance.
Marco has Observation haki too. Might not be as potent but he kept...
His exoskeleton has been kicking in. It only grants him better dura and regen.
Marco kept pace with both for a long duration. Even with those, sanji wouldn't be able to do the same, he's not as skilled/experienced as marco. Marco had both in a headlock, sanji not doing that.
Edit: Marco can...
Sanji was only shown superior due to marco having difficulty fighting both at the same time. If it was just one of them, things would've been different. He had the speed to out maneuver both and also send both flying with little difficulty. But again, it was still a struggle considering both...
In no way shape or form Sanji rocking 4 layers. Punk hazard to beginning of wci should be same key🔑. I'd want a panel to prove sanji's haki has grown since this time frame. He said he's done a few haki training within the weeks before onigashima but is still hasn't been shown on the same tier as...
Show me one scan of sanji even using good buso. His buso in wci was really poor and there's no proof of it being greater in Wano due to usages of raid suit and exoskeleton to help improve his offence.
Marco has better buso, thought many top tiers at marineford, held back queen and king for a long period of time alone.
Thought against the strongest and dealt significant damage to admiral lvl beings who are >> yk commanders.
Ight so, basically right now all ima say is marco counters being...
This thread still going? Damn. Took a quick skim through some messages just to see the same opps once again ignoring canon statements and making their own headcanon. If a character himself states that he can do so multiple times then he can. Whitebeard's df is capable of affecting the entire...
Oh my, This is a very good fight. Zoro wins here. He's capable of cutting steel, if Toji's weapon isn't stronger than steel then he's f**ked. Shishi sonson as stated is a massive speed amp capable of blitizing those who are far faster. It'll be a good battle until zoro puts on bandana. The...
Its a bloody blackhole. People out here trying their hardest to nitpick every op feats. Imagine trying to downplay facts from legitimate sources. Shame on you all. 😕