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The beam takes a while and has a red laser pointer for it, fat man/MIRV launchers would just be quicker
Yeah, the formal training was just for a minimum standard and I wouldn't consider what the Courier did even remotely close since the Bonston Brotherhood and the Mojave one are practically...
Survivor has stronger firepower in the form of modified weapons such as the MIRV nuke launcher (though depending on how the range is handled that particular one could just be a suicide option), has formal military training, plus depending on the ending has fought an entire chapter of the...
Bit of an interesting thing to also note since this is something only relevant in rare cases like this. Ainz's body was technically never human to begin with, since he spawned in as a Skeleton Mage which is a starting race. So for practically all of Momonga's existence he never spent any real...
Ainz has a high natural resistance to Mind Manipulation (which is in-universe considered an outright immunity) , to the point that it blocks Empathic Manipulation, Mind Absorption, Memory Manipulation, and Telepathy
Ainz's has a natural resistance to Death Manipulation, and even if he didn't...
The manga can be very hit or miss with people, mainly due to the very different vibe it gives in general. Due to it being far more adult in nature (with there being, less just say, a fair amount of "not consensual activities"), characters acting noticeably different than their more modern...
Don't know if it's a bit late but my usual go-to options are Cagliostro or Episode 0: The First Contact, since both movies offer a good chance to introduce the main cast to people without the story just defaulting to "Lupin and the Gang do the usual thing, you know the routine by now". After...
Also, as a bit of a side note, this scene should 100% be added to the profile on it's own
It looks cool
It actually helps his already stacked intelligence list in a new and unique way since it not only shows every single language Lupin can speak, but also saying he has completely different...
Howdy, I'm the crazy guy who mentioned the Tomoe stuff, in this scene we are told that Lupin is put under Mind Control, which Jigen doesn't believe Lupin would fall for, and are given information that Social Influence can basically be used as a form of mind control if used on Tomoe's level...
Part 6 had quite a few things added to Lupin's verse, from Lupin solving a virtual reality simulation to.......... Fujiko making deals with heaven and hell? Ignoring that part by the end of the story in episodes 23 and 24 Lupin is being mentally controlled by Tomoe and is able to break out of...
What are you on about, if we were to be measuring distance and I used feet while you used meters it'd be the same thing, as at the end of the day we are still measuring distance
The one in denial is you, you're the one who doesn't understand it, nothing says Gero's scouters aren't "inflated" as...
Again, equivalation, power levels are entirely based around scanning ki, the exact same thing Gero did for his scanners, you are highly insistent on separating the two and using our tiers for it when that's not what Gero is doing, he's not multiplying tnt or anything like that, he's multiplying...
It's not a hypothetical multiplier though, it's taking what is established to us and using that to show what would be an unknown, it's wouldn't make sense to have Yamcha at that level when it's been stated that Gero calculated how strong Goku would be by that time and that we know Gero took the...
Nothing directly points to it besides the filler scene where the Z Fighters absolutely destroy the Ginyu Force, however considering the possibility of my math it would definitely be a far easier assumption, as it would be hard to argue that Gero wouldn't assume Goku would get at least 10 times...
Again, equivalents my good sir, you are using the power level's increases when the fact remains they are both scanning the same source, ki, you keep trying to say meters and feet have no relation, Gero has Raditz's data, and as such has his power level equivalent in Gero Energy™, Gero has...
Alright, lets break it down one at a time, if he can read moon level energy, then planet level, what stops him from calculating it to Dwarf Star, when it's possible to do so with power levels, which again both rely on detecting energy, this is the equivalent of feet and meters, I might have...
No? My logic DOESN'T require Gero to know that 768,000 is equal to High 5-A, it requires that he knows how strong Goku is and his rate of power increasing, which he does, that's a fact, be it energy, power level, ect, that changes nothing as the results are still the same, Goku's growth in power...
Where does it say Gero had no idea how strong him and 19 would be? For Goku sure he didn't account for all the things on Namek but my argument really isn't about what he didn't know, it's about what he did know, obviously he didn't expect SS but that has nothing to do with my argument, because...
........................ what? I'm saying his math would result in that level, regardless on if you want to say its energy or power level the fact remains that 768,000 would be taking Goku's most extreme rate (unless you apply 19.2 to every year, but even that's too dumb as by year 4 you'd have...
So Goku isn't an adult combatant? He's also talking to a base Goku who is currently massively stronger than the math I just did, which Gero would be fully aware of since he has a energy level reader built into him and Goku had already sucker punched him in rage prior to that.
Nowhere in that scan does it say Gero isn't taking in Goku's own progression, as Goku is quite literally the most extreme rate and Gero has the data of it, hell that proves my math as Gero is using the extreme rates for his plan.
There was a post saying they should be due to Tien dodging Gero's eye blasts, however nothing pointed towards Yamcha or Krillin, so that's basically the math helping the possibility.
Just something I found on the dragon ball wiki
"Dr. Gero ceases the study of Goku's power when the Saiyan leaves for Namek, believing he had already compiled enough information; so he simply adjusts the androids' power levels to accommodate for Goku's expected power increase, not accounting for...
The numbers we are using for Yamcha on his page are already based on Saiyan Saga numbers, Gero was monitoring Goku's every fight until Vegeta, in which case he stopped since he believed he got enough data and didn't continue looking at their growth when Goku went to Namek.
No? One's saying that the power level increases are 1 for 1 in terms of stats, the other is saying that the increase in the power level is increasing, I'm not saying Yamcha is 78x weaker than 50% Freiza, I'm saying his power level is 78x lower, and I'm not even using those numbers for my...
No? If you are referring to the Frieza numbers then that was just to point out how absurdly high Gero went with the numbers he DID have (which is quite literally what's used for the current Yamcha page) and then using said numbers to show what he would assume Goku's possible power would be 5...
I agree that the progression is inconsistent, which is why I didn't multiply by 19.2 for the power level every year, but instead multiplied 19.2 by the number of years, THEN multiplied that result with the original number, if I had multiplied the same every year we'd be reaching bullshit numbers...
That is reverse logic, which is completely different from what my math is, I'm using Goku's increases in power to show what a possible 5 year training would produce at a level Gero would assume, given that even with my 768,000, that'd still be 78x less than 50% Frieza's power, Gero was clearly...
Elaborate? Since the math I did quite literally gets outclassed by what happens in series and what Gero ended up upgrading himself to, what I posted is just what would be considered a logical estimate of what Gero would assume Goku's power would be after 5 years, what I have could be lower or...
Actually, no, he was in peak fighting power, at the time all the Z fighters had separated to scout the city to find them, with Yamcha then hearing a scream and running for them. Yamcha was fully ready for them to be there with the androids specifically saying someone with an unusually high power...
I noticed that for Yamcha's profile it says that he's planet level due to Gero and 19 mistaking him for Goku, and that it would scale to Goku's peak that Gero would be aware of by Saiyan Saga due to when his data on them stopped. However that is assuming Gero didn't assume Goku wouldn't get any...
So in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure it is repeatedly stated and shown that stopping time repeatedly causes it's duration to last longer, so in a general fight that would last a long time DIO's time stop would get longer in that fight, I didn't see it on his profile and thought it should probably be...