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  1. CuddleFox

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    Priority: 2 (Define the lifting strength of the top tiers) Verse: Dragon Quest: The Adventures of Dai Feat: Vearn make a mountain appear
  2. CuddleFox

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    Priority: 1 (as of now, define the entire lifting strength of the verse, cause there's nobody yet) Verse: Dragon Quest: The Adventures of Dai Feat: Avan lift a big rock, aka the vanillest lifting feat in existence
  3. CuddleFox

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    Priority: 1 Verse: Dragon Quest: The Adventures of Dai Feat: Baran hold back the explosion of a black core
  4. CuddleFox

    Calcing someone falling off a floor, but I have trouble with pixel scaling

    Oh! I am not trying to calculate how far the woman is from the door, I am trying to calculate what height she has fallen. But with the angle of the wall, I don't get how. ^^'
  5. CuddleFox

    Calcing someone falling off a floor, but I have trouble with pixel scaling

    So, in Dragon Quest: The Adventures of Dai, some girls fall off a floor https://dragonquestmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/012-228.png https://dragonquestmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/013-228.png And past that point, I can't find what to do next:
  6. CuddleFox

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    Priority: 1 (Scale to the entire verse) Verse: Dragon Quest: The Adventures of Dai Feat: Baran blow up a country
  7. CuddleFox

    Grappler Baki General Discussion

    Sure, as long as we can figure out when the action take place. I guess.
  8. CuddleFox

    Baki Hanma vs Ohma Tokita

    Huh, better wait everything is settled for Bakiverse AP before doing versus threads xD There is new CRTs coming for Baki in the coming days.
  9. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    I didn't see it that way when I read, it's your point of view.
  10. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    I'm sorry, but it annoys me to repeat that fire burns ten times because the guy I'm talking to has decided something. So after a while, when it goes on and on, I tackle in. I didn't seriously think you were wanking, I just want you to realize that you implying something that obviously wrong...
  11. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    There is no need for a particular reasoning, normal humans can't feel power level, and it's not hinted anywhere that anyone, even in baki's crew can feel that. There is no reasoning, I'm just pointing out that you're very conveniently forgetting they are normal humans to get your multiplier...
  12. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    The answer is in my previous post. So I'll just repeat the same thing. Just because someone is frightened seeing a character does NOT mean they can pull out a specific multiplier. They still can't sense power levels. The kids fearing Baki was to support this.
  13. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Better wait for kerr5's CRT before doing that.
  14. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Some bullies and Baki's entire classroom were afraid of Baki too, although they are not fighters and didn't know about his strength. Intuition, feeling something is dangerous or fearsome, seeing a power up in hana's case doesn't means you can straight up give power levels multipliers. And even...
  15. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Because we are not in a context where we deal with characters able to determine that as precisely as in any other shonen. We're dealing with humans, and in Hana's case, with a 15 years old kid who is absolutely totally normal outside of his strength, know no martial art, is bad at math, have a...
  16. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Hanayama is not a reliable source. He's a normal 15 years old kid, we're not in dbz, don't take that kind of thing so seriously. The best we can get from his statement is that endorphins make Baki stronger. The second end seems the best to me ^^
  17. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Oh, don't be like that. This calc can be used, it's just a big low-ball, if you really want to highlight how much of a lowball it is, say Retsu is At least 9-A and problem solved. And I calculated the spec feat just below using his rush in the anime precisely. I know we're short on 8-C, but...
  18. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    He's saying that the shockwaves retsu did are logically far below what he could do with a single actual blow that would have hit the wall and that the result isn't actually representative of his strength. His actual strength is above that divided result, sure, but we can't decide his 14 hits...
  19. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    To say that a single blow would have had the same effect on the wall is arbitrary, I was not sure whether to divide by 14 or 18 already. Dividing the result is the only way it can be calculated. Even if it is a big low-ball. Plus Retsu has better feats where you can see directly what he can do...
  20. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    I don't see how the fact that he didn't hit the wall changes that he wouldn't have achieved that result with one punch. I divided it because that was still normal punches. Now, if you really want to inflate the results, calculate the energy needed to move the air so fast that a wall is...
  21. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Oh, that's very interesting, I completely forgot about that. If we find a way to calculate it, it would probably be easy to also calculate Kehaya 101's big rock split.
  22. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Hmm, gonna check that. Unfortunally, I had big internet problems recently, if someone is kind enough to give me the exact chapter.
  23. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    What is that obsidian feat exactly? I don't recall something like that.
  24. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    I posted a complete list of all the feats from the beginning of the series to SOO on page 3 or 4. You can take feats from there I guess. I've also been working on a giga-tier list of my own since a few days. ^^
  25. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Nope, took a month to do.
  26. CuddleFox

    Grappler Baki General Discussion

    Hmm, not 100% sure about LS, Oliva gripped Sukune's hand which had a finger removed by Jack. Plus Oliva's claim to still be in rehab. (That's not enough in itself, but it's a small argument to support the point). I don't think Oliva has a new key. I think he's been preparing for this particular...
  27. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Nope, and sorry if it sounds petty, but I'm not arguing on that, it's clearly obvious enough that Pickle's only defining trait in that fight is that he's physically incomparable to Baki but that Baki have technique to make up, sorry. ^^' Sure, when the fight will be over, we're still at the...
  28. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Exactly. You're mixing up all those concepts here. Baki tanked a full attack from Pickle and then commented that Pickle was indeed stronger than him. AP reflects the energy in joules that a character is able to release in a single attack, completely ignoring technique, target points, opponent's...
  29. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Musashi's durability in particular is very plastic. Musashi was affected by attacks from characters he was himself able to one-shot, like Retsu just as much as with Pickle for instance. (Even though the concept of a plastic durability is kinda strange in itself.) But yes, Hana doesn't have the...
  30. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    The response is in the post. ^^ "I have a list of all the physical strength comparisons in the main series." When you gauge AP, you gauge destruction capacity and nothing else. Many profiles ignore this and place only according to who would win a fight against whom. What we should also correct.
  31. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Lol, that would literally take weeks and re-reading the entirety of the 100+ volumes. I'm already in the process of re-reading the whole thing to find new feats. However, I have a list of all the physical strength comparisons in the main series. This could be the basis of a tier list, if you are...
  32. CuddleFox

    Grappler Baki General Discussion

    Once the fight between Oliva and Sukune is finished, we might have some rescaling to do, I think. And a few things to put down about aiki. If Oliva is actually stronger than Sukune or even just comparable (in pure strength, I mean), there will be no doubt that Oliva could have surpassed the...
  33. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    No, what I mean is that if we had to place Baki in a tier list at the moment he makes his earthquake, we couldn't scale oliva anywhere else but under Baki. And Yujiro above.
  34. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Baki's earthquake make the link between Oliva and Yujiro. Oliva is weaker than that, Yujiro is stronger.
  35. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Yeah, that is likely an outlier then. 15 years old Hanayama has a ton of serious/angry 9-B feats, and gets to 9-A only at 19, that is his only 8-C feat. We're not trading this coherent tier list with lots of links to feats directly representative of their strength for a ton of At least 8-C...
  36. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Scarface happen while the cast is at the Raitai. I think. Because it came out during this period in the publication and we have no indication that it takes place in the past.
  37. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Giga punch is son of ogre chapter 280. Dorian's tunnel is New Grappler Baki chapter 70.
  38. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Dorian broke his tunnel in the course of one night. It's not that much of a feat. And Yujiro's giga punch scale only to Yujiro who have better feats.
  39. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    Tina? However, if the Hanayama one get accepted, that's interesting. That will finally give us a 8-C to scale all the "At least 9-A" and "At least 9-A, likely higher" to
  40. CuddleFox

    Baki verse downgrade

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CuddleFox/Retsu_pulverizes_a_wall_and_Spec_destroy_the_statue_of_liberty_REDONE
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