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  1. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    Because he unconscious after taking fiamma thelesma attack (OT vol.24).
  2. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    If we assume accel using his platinum, white, or black wing at start, most those lower tier had no chance at all. But, if accel starts at his base, I believe some of them can beat him. This thread need clear condition either for accel or challanger since everyone can also assume that accel will...
  3. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    Then why there are thread about 7C accel vs ainz, they didnt think it stomps at all. How higher tier accel stomp while his lower tier is not.
  4. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    Thats why I include accel Law manipulation. If he finds his attack ineffective, he will use his Law manipulation so lower tier character had no chance. After all, there are no condition how accel should be. Also, there are thread about accel (he still at high-6A version) vs ainz (around 6C)...
  5. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    Man, this thread really underestimating accel. Mindhax cannot be easily beat accel unless it higher tier than accel had now. For example, why shokuhou misaki cant control accel or why gremlin magicians didnt control accel via magic during hawaii invasion arc eventhough they already had knowledge...
  6. Makina_Yuki

    Lowest Tier Characters that could defeat Accelerator and his excellent Vector

    If we talk about lowest tier that can beat accel, some factor need be considered. First, if mind control will easily works on accel, I believe so many esper and magicians that can kill accel. But throughout the series, accel never had issues against mindhax. For example, during gremlin...
  7. Makina_Yuki

    Toaru's power

    I also wonder why accel isnt high 6A instead. He able to borrow earth rotation force without single fatigue in his base form. Also, my interpetation about accel power is manipulate vector direction & its magnitude as long he can calculate. 7B is too underwhelming for someone who able slow down...
  8. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma(To Aru) VS Sakura Matou(Fate/Stay Night,HF line version)

    Peak human is his base speed. Touma has Precognition which works by unconsciously reacting to the opponent's involuntary movements prior to an attack and even able to negate misaka lightning even in her Level 6 shift form without even see it. Fyi, misaka in her Level 6 form has Hypersonic speed...
  9. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Miyamoto Musashi

    @Veloxt1r0kore actually to aru has character with smiliar ability like musashi had, Almighty Thor, and kamachi states that Thor with his Almighty mode cant harm accel at all even with that ability. Thats why I said "unless musashi more OP than gil or karna, she cant beat accel".
  10. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Miyamoto Musashi

    Accel already beat karna and gil in other thread which two most OP servant in nasuverse. So unless musashi more OP than karna or gil, I doubt she can beat accel xD
  11. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma(To Aru) VS Sakura Matou(Fate/Stay Night,HF line version)

    Already 8:0 for Touma. I think we should add this result to their profile or close this thread.
  12. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma VS Ainz Ooal Gown

    Stomp, this fight is not relevant. Why people always put touma to fight one on one against someone who clearly not in criteria for Touma. Need close this thread.
  13. Makina_Yuki

    Touma Kamijou vs Thor Odinson

    What do you expect from normal high school student that lose his memory and without experience in single material art? Touma still lose against Hamazura and Tsuchimikado in hand to hand combat. Assuming Thor has experience in material art, hard for Touma to beat him.
  14. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Miyamoto Musashi

    This fight basically same with kamachi states about what if accel vs almighty thor. Thor cant harm accel neither do accel. Fyi, almighty thor has similar ability with musashi.
  15. Makina_Yuki

    Kanzaki Kaori vs Miyamoto Musashi (TWO MORE VOTE NEEDED)

    Agree with @Andrew48. And dont forget, even as servant, Musashi stamina also limited, what if kanzaki can block, dodge, or even counter musashi attack because to aru saint has better stamina in general than nasuverse servant
  16. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Miyamoto Musashi

    No way Musashi wins because she cat bypass accel vector shield.
  17. Makina_Yuki

    Kagura vs Aleister Crowley

    Is that stomp because aleister can boost up his power up to High-1C? Even without High-1C tier, he still can make his attack 10 times stronger than enemies expected and it work even on High Priest which always underestimate his enemies.
  18. Makina_Yuki

    Jumbo vs. Aleister Crowley

    IMO, even against enemies that usually underestimate their enemies (example; High priest), aleister still able fight equally against them. And remember that High Priest also High-1C.
  19. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma VS Ainz Ooal Gown

    Stomp, unless touma use his IT which also stomp for aniz ._.
  20. Makina_Yuki

    Kanzaki Kaori vs Miyamoto Musashi (TWO MORE VOTE NEEDED)

    Then why musashi cant stop munenori slash? I believe that she has limitation and her fight against munenori also prove that. Also, saint has better durability and AP than most servant in nasuverse, and inducting mana to their weapon also easy for saint, especially kanzaki which can use magic on...
  21. Makina_Yuki

    Kanzaki Kaori vs Miyamoto Musashi (TWO MORE VOTE NEEDED)

    I dont undertsand why people says that kanzaki cant hurt musashi? Is that to aru saint usually immune against conventional weapon as well? If yes, why kanzaki can hurt acqua as well? Is that means she can supply magic that can even hurt servant which has magic resistance as well, plus acqua has...
  22. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma(To Aru) VS Sakura Matou(Fate/Stay Night,HF line version)

    @Monarch Laciel probably it will be too late for sakura to do that since their distance just 10m. Also, sakura giant shadow will be instantly destroyed once it touch IB. Touma can even fight & win against berserk accel during ww3 which his IB cannot completely negate, and this battle just Touma...
  23. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma(To Aru) VS Sakura Matou(Fate/Stay Night,HF line version)

    @Solacis Touma can negate misaka lightning which Massively Hypersonic+ speed. Against supranatural attack, Touma reaction is MH+. Meanwhile, Sakura attack speed just MH. Also, I believe that Sakura subsonic & MH attack comes from her magic, not her physical attack. I dont see problem for Touma...
  24. Makina_Yuki

    Natsu Dragneel vs Iskandar/Alexander

    Vote for Rider, basically this is almost same with 1 people against one country. Each Ionioi soldire can be compared with one heroic spirit (which at least 7B) plus servants will be stronger in his reality marble. Rider just need force all his soldire to make Natsu fatigue before he command all...
  25. Makina_Yuki

    Kamijou Touma(To Aru) VS Sakura Matou(Fate/Stay Night,HF line version)

    First, Sakura base durability is human level, so if Touma can pass her magic, Touma will win. I know that Sakura durability can reach up to mountain level, but remember that Sakura magic or Shadow Giant will be useless against IB. Second, Touma can stand and counter Berserk Accel eventhough he...
  26. Makina_Yuki

    Ryougi Shiki vs Kamijou Touma

    Shiki is skilled fighter and she better than touma. Shiki can fight against many people without killing them (see Knk movie 7), meanwhile touma just run away xD No MEoDP needed Vote for shiki
  27. Makina_Yuki

    Saber(Fate/Stay Night) VS Misaka Mikoto(To Aru)

    So burunhild didnt fight seriously against misaka? Well brunhild almost slashed misaka with her sword but misaka can hold it via her magnetism. Also if I remember correctly the novel stated that silvia will help brunhild if she can defeat thor, which means brunhild had trouble against misaka...
  28. Makina_Yuki

    Why no one adds his weakness against magic?

    Yes I agree with DontTalk, I dont think magic is accel fatal weakness.
  29. Makina_Yuki

    Dante (6-A) vs Accelerator

    ^yeah, as long it has vector it will be nothing for accel even though it is magic.
  30. Makina_Yuki

    Why no one adds his weakness against magic?

    Ah accel not reflect telesma attack. He tanked it without his vector shield.
  31. Makina_Yuki

    Why no one adds his weakness against magic?

    Accel could deflect (not reflect) water magic during WW3 (OT volume 20) and he could survive against archangel gabriel god purge so I think its fair enough.
  32. Makina_Yuki

    Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Reinhard van Astrea ( with Reid )

    ^agree, win for gremmy. Reinhard had no blessing against reality wraping because he unaware about subaru power.
  33. Makina_Yuki

    Tatsuya Shiba vs Accelerator

    Actually I think this fight will be unfair for base accel due to tatsuya demon right. But after read DT explanation, I will go with accel in all round.
  34. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Father (FMA)

    Accel in all round for reason above
  35. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator VS Reinhard Van Astrea

    ^yeah agree, I wonder why.
  36. Makina_Yuki

    Strongest Character Reinhard van Astrea Can Beat?

    Maybe any non-hax caracter below tier 6b due to reinhard speed. Without raid, I think he could beat shana or any character with building level durability or below. With raid, maybe any character with country level durability or below such as servants from fate series.
  37. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator VS Reinhard Van Astrea

    Really? His blessing including Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks misses him. I wonder why author say that instead all attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses. Also is that means it only works to attack that performed to reinhard and not to attack...
  38. Makina_Yuki

    Ainz Ooal Gown vs Gilgamesh (Fate)

    It relevant because pvp is ygdrasill term for one on one battle without support from third party. I think Its not different with normal one on one battle.
  39. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator vs Fiamma of the right

    Well, I dont know accel tier when he reach level 6. But yes, he is not top tier character in to aru verse (until lastest light novel).
  40. Makina_Yuki

    Accelerator VS Reinhard Van Astrea

    Anyways I doubt that reinhard could harm accel due to his vector shield. Also raid cannot beat accel because he can survive against fiamma attack that could destroy eurasia. In other words reinhard cannot beat accel. Anyone know about reinhard ability mechanism? I mean it just only applied on...
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