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If we assume accel using his platinum, white, or black wing at start, most those lower tier had no chance at all. But, if accel starts at his base, I believe some of them can beat him. This thread need clear condition either for accel or challanger since everyone can also assume that accel will...
Thats why I include accel Law manipulation. If he finds his attack ineffective, he will use his Law manipulation so lower tier character had no chance. After all, there are no condition how accel should be. Also, there are thread about accel (he still at high-6A version) vs ainz (around 6C)...
Man, this thread really underestimating accel. Mindhax cannot be easily beat accel unless it higher tier than accel had now. For example, why shokuhou misaki cant control accel or why gremlin magicians didnt control accel via magic during hawaii invasion arc eventhough they already had knowledge...
If we talk about lowest tier that can beat accel, some factor need be considered. First, if mind control will easily works on accel, I believe so many esper and magicians that can kill accel. But throughout the series, accel never had issues against mindhax.
For example, during gremlin...
I also wonder why accel isnt high 6A instead. He able to borrow earth rotation force without single fatigue in his base form. Also, my interpetation about accel power is manipulate vector direction & its magnitude as long he can calculate. 7B is too underwhelming for someone who able slow down...
Peak human is his base speed. Touma has Precognition which works by unconsciously reacting to the opponent's involuntary movements prior to an attack and even able to negate misaka lightning even in her Level 6 shift form without even see it. Fyi, misaka in her Level 6 form has Hypersonic speed...
@Veloxt1r0kore actually to aru has character with smiliar ability like musashi had, Almighty Thor, and kamachi states that Thor with his Almighty mode cant harm accel at all even with that ability. Thats why I said "unless musashi more OP than gil or karna, she cant beat accel".
Accel already beat karna and gil in other thread which two most OP servant in nasuverse. So unless musashi more OP than karna or gil, I doubt she can beat accel xD
Stomp, this fight is not relevant. Why people always put touma to fight one on one against someone who clearly not in criteria for Touma. Need close this thread.
What do you expect from normal high school student that lose his memory and without experience in single material art? Touma still lose against Hamazura and Tsuchimikado in hand to hand combat. Assuming Thor has experience in material art, hard for Touma to beat him.
This fight basically same with kamachi states about what if accel vs almighty thor. Thor cant harm accel neither do accel. Fyi, almighty thor has similar ability with musashi.
Agree with @Andrew48. And dont forget, even as servant, Musashi stamina also limited, what if kanzaki can block, dodge, or even counter musashi attack because to aru saint has better stamina in general than nasuverse servant
Is that stomp because aleister can boost up his power up to High-1C? Even without High-1C tier, he still can make his attack 10 times stronger than enemies expected and it work even on High Priest which always underestimate his enemies.
IMO, even against enemies that usually underestimate their enemies (example; High priest), aleister still able fight equally against them. And remember that High Priest also High-1C.
Then why musashi cant stop munenori slash? I believe that she has limitation and her fight against munenori also prove that. Also, saint has better durability and AP than most servant in nasuverse, and inducting mana to their weapon also easy for saint, especially kanzaki which can use magic on...
I dont undertsand why people says that kanzaki cant hurt musashi? Is that to aru saint usually immune against conventional weapon as well? If yes, why kanzaki can hurt acqua as well? Is that means she can supply magic that can even hurt servant which has magic resistance as well, plus acqua has...
@Monarch Laciel probably it will be too late for sakura to do that since their distance just 10m. Also, sakura giant shadow will be instantly destroyed once it touch IB. Touma can even fight & win against berserk accel during ww3 which his IB cannot completely negate, and this battle just Touma...
@Solacis Touma can negate misaka lightning which Massively Hypersonic+ speed. Against supranatural attack, Touma reaction is MH+. Meanwhile, Sakura attack speed just MH. Also, I believe that Sakura subsonic & MH attack comes from her magic, not her physical attack. I dont see problem for Touma...
Vote for Rider, basically this is almost same with 1 people against one country. Each Ionioi soldire can be compared with one heroic spirit (which at least 7B) plus servants will be stronger in his reality marble. Rider just need force all his soldire to make Natsu fatigue before he command all...
First, Sakura base durability is human level, so if Touma can pass her magic, Touma will win. I know that Sakura durability can reach up to mountain level, but remember that Sakura magic or Shadow Giant will be useless against IB. Second, Touma can stand and counter Berserk Accel eventhough he...
Shiki is skilled fighter and she better than touma. Shiki can fight against many people without killing them (see Knk movie 7), meanwhile touma just run away xD
No MEoDP needed
Vote for shiki
So burunhild didnt fight seriously against misaka? Well brunhild almost slashed misaka with her sword but misaka can hold it via her magnetism. Also if I remember correctly the novel stated that silvia will help brunhild if she can defeat thor, which means brunhild had trouble against misaka...
Accel could deflect (not reflect) water magic during WW3 (OT volume 20) and he could survive against archangel gabriel god purge so I think its fair enough.
Actually I think this fight will be unfair for base accel due to tatsuya demon right. But after read DT explanation, I will go with accel in all round.
Maybe any non-hax caracter below tier 6b due to reinhard speed. Without raid, I think he could beat shana or any character with building level durability or below. With raid, maybe any character with country level durability or below such as servants from fate series.
Really? His blessing including Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks misses him. I wonder why author say that instead all attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.
Also is that means it only works to attack that performed to reinhard and not to attack...
It relevant because pvp is ygdrasill term for one on one battle without support from third party. I think Its not different with normal one on one battle.
Anyways I doubt that reinhard could harm accel due to his vector shield. Also raid cannot beat accel because he can survive against fiamma attack that could destroy eurasia. In other words reinhard cannot beat accel.
Anyone know about reinhard ability mechanism? I mean it just only applied on...