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  1. Corporal_Atlas

    About 2-B Alien X

    Dagon isn't conquering 100+ spatial dimensions, which are what the Naljians are referring to, he's conquering univeres/dimensions of existence. For the situation with Dagon universes and dimensions are used interchangeably, as is often the case for the series and fiction. Thus Vilgax saying...
  2. Corporal_Atlas

    About 2-B Alien X

    I was giving the show's definition for reference, I don't think the answer is reliable and if memory serves the question asked about the multiverse anyways.
  3. Corporal_Atlas

    About 2-B Alien X

    Albedo with Azmuth's brain defines the Omniverse via the omniversal force. If there are other examples in the series I don't currently remember them. "No, not universal, not even multiversal. This Omniversal force continues forever in every direction through every reality." "I could never...
  4. Corporal_Atlas

    Bill Cipher vs. Alien X

    The spark between Bellicus and Serena prior to recreating the universe that flashes then diffuses outside of the body before action is taken might indicate otherwise.
  5. Corporal_Atlas

    Diavolo vs Tserriednich

    I was thinking it's a win for Diavolo because King Crimson should go off before Tse's ability, but it's kind of a mental puzzle as to how the two abilities interact with each other. Does King Crimson activating first invalidate the fact that Tse's ability went off? In that case I lean towards...
  6. Corporal_Atlas

    Unlisted Alien X abilities

    If it's relevant or helps: Verdona calls mana life energy(and it can be absorbed from living things like plants, usually wilting them when done). Charmcaster says all magic in the universe comes from Ledgerdomain, a different dimension from the main one. Kevin says mana is multi-dimensional(as...
  7. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    The idea of bonding is an idea from the MOA Q&A, of which I don't think they're trying to take a lot of information from since MOA didn't work on AF-OV. FoC Celestialsapiens aren't bonding, they're just all floating there.
  8. Corporal_Atlas

    Atomic-X tiering adjustment

    By the same logic people try to use regarding who Ben 10K transforms into against the CTB, Atomic-X is then considered better at handling the bomb than Clockwork. The show already demonstrated that Ben 10K did not pick the best alien for the job. Assuming Atomic-X keeps all of Alien X's...
  9. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    Atomic-X never fought the evil Bens to my knowledge, he just flicked Vilgax and fought Maltruant. The Vilgax flick would be him holding back(Celestialsapiens can hit people wihout obliterating them too), but I agree that he's clearly weaker than X as is demonstrated when he's fighting with the...
  10. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    I get what you're saying, but my issue with this is that in Store 23 they expressly described this kind of travel as not time travel, but dimension travel. Moreover, this is especially odd when what linked them was the Null Void dimension. Following your logic Caesar would have sent the Alpha to...
  11. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    The Annihilarg, CTB, and Alien X are related to whether the universe is considered to have infinite parralel dimensions or not. IE Rex is Low 2-C at the end by virtue of control over his parralel dimension, but if there are infinite parralel dimensions in what's considered to be "the universe"...
  12. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    I think the reservation is being made less about whether the actual crossover is canon(it is), and more about whether Holiday is being literal/knowledgable, which is fair. At the beginning Holiday actually didn't believe in parralel dimensions, calling them a theory. This is Holiday at the end...
  13. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    It's also in that Imgur link I posted without having to be downloaded, but yeah, that.
  14. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    By responding to the OP? It also deals with this side discussion, because a CTB that hypothetically targeted a single universe alone would be striking at infinite parralel dimensions.
  15. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Upgrade

    A "universe" by Ben 10 measure includes infinite dimensions which can be the size of a universe inofitself. This is before getting into the multiverse and omniverse. Such examples include Mad Ben's dimension, Dimension 23, Generator Rex's dimension, etc. To my memory the size of Ledgerdomain and...
  16. Corporal_Atlas

    Unlisted Alien X abilities

    Does recreating the magic system(or at the bare minimum filling a dimension with mana and linking it to others) and setting the rules for physics in throughout dimensions fall into a category?
  17. Corporal_Atlas

    Unlisted Alien X abilities

    Isn't using the old MW answer a bit pointless now? X recreated the universe, which includes every dimension/timeline in the universe, which includes Ledgerdomain. Ledgerdomain is the source of magic across the dimensions of the universe, and magic is amplified in it. Time also operates...
  18. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X downgrade to 3-A

    He's saying together they can do greater things, but that individually they can't. Yeah it doesn't really make sense, since the Low 2-C is essentially the definition of what Alien X did in the series(create a universe).
  19. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X downgrade to 3-A

    Celstialsapiens bonding to do anything has never been shown in the series, it was only brought up in the same MOA Q&A that calls them extra-dimensional and stronger than a 26th dimensional species. I would not take information from the Q&A seriously because MOA did not have any significant hand...
  20. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X downgrade to 3-A

    Just for starters, I wouldn't use the MOA Q&A(Celestialsapiens have to merge to survive Anur Vladias or the CTB) to argue for 3-A since if you take their full Q&A to heart Celestialsapiens would be 1-B or 1-A and Anur Vladias and the CTB would have to scale off of that. Too much stuff to cover...
  21. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    So is there an implied battlefield limit in the fight? The SBA would say it begins in NYC(4km apart at maximum) but could be left as they please, but maybe I'm misreading something.
  22. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    In the Aggregor arc it's established that only Paradox, Celestialsapiens, and someone with the Map of Infinity can leave the universe and reach the Forge of Creation, which is outside of their universe as well as all others. In Universe Vs. Tennyson Celestialsapiens enter their universe from the...
  23. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    "Killing the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory...
  24. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    And just checking, if X were to leave the universe would P3 lose after a day by SBA? I guess wearing him down is a moot point anyways in that case.
  25. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Multiverse Level

    I think a Celestialsapien would go untouched by a bomb that wipes timelines like the CTB, because they aren't a part of any timeline. I think a Celestialsapien that's theoretically targeted by the CTB would be immune too, but for the average one born in the FoC or Alien X it shouldn't even be...
  26. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Multiverse Level

    I definitely agree about not just taking anything a show producer says without hesitation, and for Ben 10 in particular I take the answer Matt Wayne gave about not committing any answer from a producer not addressed in the show to heart, as it could always be contradicted without consequence...
  27. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X Multiverse Level

    Just for the record, Atomic-X is already shown to be weaker than Alien X in the fight against Maltruant. Malturant's attacks can at the very least get a reaction out of Atomic-X, sending him flying and inflicting pain. Alien X takes a device at least strong enough to destroy the universe point...
  28. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    I'll look into that. Through only on-screen and in-game feats(or just sticking to wiki listed feats) I still give it to X through range and wearing down P3, as previously mentioned.
  29. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    Celestialsapiens generally live in the Forge of Creation, which is outside the universe, and act upon the multiverse from it. As for conceptual manipulation, Celestialsapiens have on a number of occasions changed art styles or voice actors for at least the main universe(presumably countless...
  30. Corporal_Atlas

    EVERYONE IS LOW 2-C (Makoto Yuki vs Alien X)

    I'm assuming Alien X isn't deliberating or P3 could just use the Universe Arcana to seal them before they make any substantial decision, assuming that works. With the voting process put aside Alien X should jump outside the universe for starters. Then it's a matter of whittling away at laws or...
  31. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X powers.

    I think the acausality comes from a tweet, and the bit about an Anur Validas weakness comes from the Q&A.
  32. Corporal_Atlas

    Alien X powers.

    I think there's a lot of information from Twitter and the Q&A on his page.
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