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  1. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    @Prof. Another thing I would mention is that Dio Brando's sons show no indication of having inherited his vampirism, although on one occasion Giorno has been shown to use his and other vampires' characteristic "WRYYY" battle cry. It should be noted, that the circumstances behind their births...
  2. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    I'm well-informed that individuals who put hardwork, determination, and a passion can overcome their limitations. It's the maximum point that's either of a specified value or at a specified time that can be expanded upon. Regardless, Jotaro has the blood of a Joestar, which wouldn't be too...
  3. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Currently, the best vindications I've proposed was my discussion with Standuser081. I agree we've fairly gotten sidetracked and I would advise anyone to read my counter-arguments to Standuser081 for a better representation. Nonetheless, here are the main points for my position: >DIO drained...
  4. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Much obliged. Subsequently, this debate will find closure and hopefully leads to the truth. I appreciate your time here, Prof. and the substantial effort you've put into. Good debate.
  5. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Then you have to demonstrate that Part I Dio's body is identical to Part III DIO if we're going to incorporate continous growth. Straizo have mentioned, "Dio's failure was that he enjoyed these abilities. He wanted to test the limit to his ability... "Dio has tested the limitation of his body...
  6. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    .... I've never claimed that Part 3 Pre-High DIO is stronger than Part 1 Dio because of regen. Whenever I refer to Part III, I meant his Awakened form. You've specifically stated, "He got his old regen back. Meaning he's back to his Part 1 self." Subsequently, scapegoating me for conflicting...
  7. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    ^This
  8. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    >Part 1 Dio still had a higher regen level than Part 3 Pre-Awakened Dio. Like I said, I'm well-informed that both Part 1 Dio and Part 3 Awakened DIO are High-Mid with their Regenerationn. Nonetheless, the "peak" has his Regenerationn speed surpassed which should be impossible if Part I Dio is...
  9. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Then you've came full circle with your conclusion since it's only based on hypothetical speculations. You've disregarded the differences between two of the incarnations, which is ironic, as you've claimed his Part I form was his peak, yet Part III has the faster Regenerationn. DIO stated he was...
  10. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Then his statement was further falsified when he claimed "he'll regain control if he drained the blood of another person." After he gained "the greatest high" the only line of logic is that "he's back to his Part 1 self", yet he is radically different from his earliest incarnation. That's when...
  11. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Yes, their Regen levels are similar. High-Mid. Part I Dio requires blood to boost his Regenerationn speed from a near-vertical bisection near the end of the series. (1 , 2 ) Part III (Awakened) can hastily regenerate without the need for blood. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7). Dio, when he has full...
  12. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Dargoo and I agreed that Part 1 Dio's regen is significantly slower than his Part III "Awakened" counterpart. Are you implying that we should scale "Awakened" DIO's regen speed to Part I?
  13. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Interpreted, but not verified as an absolute. I can drink a 5-hour energy drink, but that doesn't mean I'm at my peak potential. I can further develop myself if I really wanted too and surpass some limitations.
  14. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    The only basis to keep your vindication stable are held by speculations and word ambiguities. The term "maybe" only lies on DIO's uncertainty that he'll regain control if he drained the blood of another person. He drained the blood of a Cashier, then he had his skull crushed. Indeed, he...
  15. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    I'm astonished. Your logic is that if DIO drained the blood of another person then he would regain his Vaporization Freezing technique. Even though he implied "Maybe " he'll regain control in the original scans. You're also implying that draining the blood of Joseph Joestar seemingly makes him...
  16. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    That is based on the contributors to decide, not the direct opposition. Nonetheless, Araki have neither stated that DIO will regain his Vaporization Freezing Technique nor did he implied he'll fully gain control once he drained the blood of another person. This was disproven when he drained...
  17. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Read our most recent posts.
  18. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    @Prof. Although, I can argue that DIO regaining his vaporization freezing technique is quite hypothetical due to it never being demonstrated in Part III and Araki barely mentioning it. Patently, the reason why we're discussing about this to begin with. Nonetheless, I've done what I've can.
  19. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    It's currently the only theory that's plausible. The mass amount of vitality would make it strenuous for DIO to fully assimulate. Especially if it's the body of a hamon user. Holy's gentle, non-violent soul made her lack the mental strength necessary to control the Stand, slowly making her ill...
  20. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    The only clarity behind Jonathan's resistance and why Jonathan's deceased/resisting body is capable of owning a stand is due to his hamon. Zeppeli also passed all of his hamon into Jonathan in which most of it shouldn't have left if it was used on Wang Chan. Dio used his SRS eyes to prevent...
  21. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Dio used his SRS eyes to prevent Jonathan from using all of it.
  22. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    I'm well informed that DIO being pierced by the stand arrow would unlock their Stands and the rest of the Joestar bloodlines. However, Jonathan retaining his will is something I might look into.
  23. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Similar to Hermit Purple, it can produce a psychic photograph by smashing a camera, which DIO used to track the Joestars and their friends's current location to send Stand Users after them. Both Jonathan and Joseph are hamon user. Zeppeli also passed all of his hamon into Jonathan in which most...
  24. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    I would need further clarity behind Jonathan's resistance and why Jonathan's deceased/resisting body is capable of owning a stand. If it wasn't caused by hamon.
  25. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Jonathan's body was at a weakened state when the hamon inside was not as vital. Although, this took time for Dio to assimulate which led him to bear a neck scar.
  26. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    "It's a contradiction. If the breathing kills them because it creates hamon, why do they need to drain others of their hamon energy? Shouldn't it also kill them?" Too much hamon would simply kill them. That doesn't mean they'll get killed because vampires breath. Straizo perished due to him...
  27. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    The vampire seemingly regenerated after Joseph cracked its skull in said scans. (1 , 2 , 3 ) I've only posted a single scan due to convenience. >Zeppeli said hamon cannot be used for destructive purposes, but later Caesar used it to stop the heart of his best friend. Caesar said they can't use...
  28. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    He actually inherited from Lisa Lisa in which she swores that Joseph would never used the technique. Vampires simply can't produce energy on their own and simply drain blood of others to keep themselves alive. If Joseph does it habitually then does the blood carrying the hamon/oxygen transfer...
  29. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    "The exchange bearer needs to suck energy through the blood of others! And the hamon energy is also brought forth by the bloodstream " The Baron also stated "If he's attacked by a larger wave of hamon energy, he will be crushed! " To simply put, the increasing vitality of hamon energy would...
  30. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Then you still need an explanation of Joseph Joestar's genetically inherited hamon if he never had proper training.
  31. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Please specify when Zeppeli stated "that the energy vampires use and hamon users are the same, yes, but they are POLAR OPPOSITES." Zeppeli never mentioned a coin analogy. As I've stated, hamon is specifically weakened if the user does not breath properly as vampires were able to survive due...
  32. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Nonetheless, you still have to clarify the reason behind Jonathan's resistance, why Jonathan's deceased/resisting body obtained a stand, and the reason why draining Joseph Joestar's genetically inherited Hamon would regain control. I'm pretty sure vampires can handle a weak supplement of hamon...
  33. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    @Prof. I don't oppose Part I Dio's High-Mid Regenerationn, but only its speed as it does not scale with Straizo. Certainly, that is all.
  34. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Regen by gathering his appendages not regrowing his limbs like Alucard (Hellsing).
  35. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    High-Mid: The ability to regenerate from being blown / cut to pieces, or from a small piece of your body, such as your severed head, a single organ, or a finger. His Regenerationn description is seemingly accurate as none if states he has regrown any limbs. Part I Dio's Regenerationn however...
  36. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Removing Part III DIO's (after draining the blood of Joseph) Ice manipulation. I'm not proposing to remove DIO's Water Manipulation as Prof. made his point. Also, Dio's Regenerationn speed should be listed under weakness due to his sluggish regen rate. This only applies to Part I however.
  37. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    @Asuka I agree. Subjectively, I would much rather end this quick as I have other things to attend. I'm opposing the position that DIO, after draining the blood of Joseph Joestar, regained his vaporization freezing technique whereas Prof supports it. Currently, he still has to clarify the...
  38. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    Please read my counter-argument to gain a better understanding.
  39. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    To further support the claim that Hamon is stored in the bloodstream, I would mention Joseph Joestar genetically inheriting Hamo from his mother, Lisa Lisa. She is an Expert Hamon's user. Well, since they have another Hamon's user other than Joseph in his family, the percentage Jonathan...
  40. SolidEye234

    DIO has his Phantom Blood abilities (Criticism) ... Re-uploaded

    @ProfessorLord The entire point of this criticism is to determine if the original argument holds up. That being Awakened DIO being capable of utilizing his Vaporization Freezing Technique. With that being said, I'm seemingly waiting to be debunked if it leads to objective truth. Nonetheless...
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