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  1. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    You did refer to base forms but then mentioned shikai and bankai. Of course I di dnot factor zaraki as part of that. Especially when I originally did have him in what I clearly thought was using his SP to attack ichigo but you dismiss it as his SP randomly flailing.
  2. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    Cool, but we know that Zaraki does not have literally 0 control over his reiatsu. He should have at least a couple of point in it. But how does that work with TYBW Zaraki then. Does he still have 0 SP because I am pretty sure his control did not get any higher after his fight with Unohana. Also...
  3. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    So his durability would be below even soi fon's attack and to what level then. Then what is he doing here and here and why isnt that factored in his SP stat. I mean..you are claiming that by saying that zaraki does not use SP to attack in that arc so his SP stat is 0.
  4. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    I comprehended it fine thank you. I am saying that I disagree with the fact that zaraki uses literally 0 SP in any attacks during the SS arc.
  5. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    Well of course not. I am saying he has 0 kido. As we know he doesnt use any kido. SP should also provide defense to them so Zaraki's defense is 80 to his 199 attack? His durability in this arc should be far below his AP then if that is what you are saying. How is it baseless when that is not...
  6. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    Its called kido/SP with kido being first and specifically refers to kido when talking about why zaraki is at 0. It more than likely means kido mainly.
  7. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    Except zaraki having 0 SP you mean which is a massive contradiction to what we know and see. If it is not linear it has to have some logic to it. I dont care about gaps being smaller or larger. That literally doesnt matter. You explain something that is straight up factually wrong lmao. He...
  8. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    You know what actually fits the Toshiro and Gin scenario? The fact that they both have 80 attack and defence. Logically meaning that attack and defense is in fact their "physical and spiritual" AP/Dura. And fitting with the weird ratings for Zaraki for SP which more than likely refers to Kido.
  9. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    Yes, I know that and I know you said that and it has nothing to do with anything I said. Literally both of your comments have zilch to do with what I said. Yes it is not linear so why is it that you somehow think that despite 199 being massive under 200 that 160 can somehow compare to 170...
  10. Rocker1189

    Arc Comes Home With The Milk [Bleach Soul Society Arc Captain Class Scaling]

    How is it consistent when you acknowledge that TYBW Unohana would stomp SS arc Zaraki yet put people who are within 10 points of each other as similar in power. Heck it doesnt make sense with Zaraki which I know you say it refers to the fact that he doesnt utilize spiritual energy but again...
  11. Rocker1189

    Gremmy and Lee Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    As part of his ability? He directly states he goes back from version 2 to version 1. Not that he regenerates his body in any way outside of said ability. He is simply able to reverse his ability. You first have to prove she has the ability I cant prove a negative. The question is what is the...
  12. Rocker1189

    Gremmy and Lee Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Yes sure but they both share the fact that the person is put in a logically death like state in their use (erasing one's existence/cutting himself up in a sense). Thus the comparison. Point being that when you ability puts you in said state and back it isnt another innate ability at work unless...
  13. Rocker1189

    Gremmy and Lee Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Lol, its the best comparison I can think of atm. Cant remember anyone else with "similar" abilities.
  14. Rocker1189

    Gremmy and Lee Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    There is nothing to refute as there is no feat in the first place. We know what his ability is and we know that he just reverses the effect to come back which is why he stays hurt when he is hurt. What you are doing is escalating from what his ability does and ignoring the fact that he can...
  15. Rocker1189

    Gremmy and Lee Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Yeah no, that is not at all how any of this works. You cant just think that this is just how his ability works? It would be a pretty shit ability if he erased himself and just could not comeback in anyway whatsoever. The coming back is also a part of his ability. And no just because yachiru...
  16. Rocker1189

    BLACK CLOVER CRT: EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED

    As long as you know that BC is in a ridiculous state with accept multipliers and statements, that's all.
  17. Rocker1189

    BLACK CLOVER CRT: EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED

    I am going to be real with you chief. BC calcs are what is artificially high, same with the accepted BC multipliers. What other verse on this wiki has such ridicilous multipliers accepted without any actual feats (yes feats, not statements up for vague interpretation). Stop this victim complex...
  18. Rocker1189

    JUJUTSU KAISEN SPEED DOWNGRADE CONT.

    I am actually briefly coming out of wiki hiatus to counter most of these feats. Some of which I had problems with way before I went on said hiatus. First one I am surprised as **** that using readers perspective (?????) was an acceptable calc to do. Second one we cant see the hand she used to...
  19. Rocker1189

    Naruto: Sasuke's Sound Blitz Calc Replacement

    No problem, its fine now.
  20. Rocker1189

    Naruto: Sasuke's Sound Blitz Calc Replacement

    Uh... you did not calc how far Sasuke needed to dodge away from the blast, only how far he needed to go to grab the team unless I am missing something? And another error, Rock Lee is not lying straight, him legs are in an angle so you would need to make sure the line for his height follows his...
  21. Rocker1189

    General Otsutsuki (and Kawaki/Boruto) ability additions

    Thanks everyone would go about the changes soon, can someone close the thread?
  22. Rocker1189

    Rinnegan Black Receiver Addition

    You are straight up ignoring what Obito says. He doesn't say that he is binding Naruto he states that the rods are bonding him and directly compares them to those of Nagato's. Again both that statement and to tobirama's more than proves that touch at that point works. On top of that Obito isn't...
  23. Rocker1189

    Rinnegan Black Receiver Addition

    Stated here by Obito who has Hashirama cells and same with Madara. Nagato's version do not work on touch but Obito's and Madara do which is why Tobirama reacted the way he did.
  24. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Well its not necessarily that I agree nor disagree I do think he has a feat there I just think it is hard to quantify as @Pain_to12 stated. But yeah the Mokuton feat is far better.
  25. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Thats true but the first meteor still fell down so the force distribution should still be practically the same maybe a slightly less I guess.
  26. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    I have explained why this doesnt matter. What does matter are the stuff connected to the ground or well whatever is pushing against the first meteor. The first meteor is just a casualty transporting the force of the first one.
  27. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    yeah but the damage would be split inbetween both of you feet using your example. The sections under each foot would not each take the entire force of the fist. They would each take half of the force instead. In Onoki's case it is split inbetween the hands and him.
  28. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    This doesnt work because the second meteor isnt hitting Onoki it is hitting the first meteor that Onoki is underneath. So the force is equally spread out through the first meteor meaning Onoki and the hands take a split amount of damage.
  29. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Initial force is not a thing with a single projectile unless it is something like a continuous beam. The initial force is the full force of the meteor. And even so the hands also took said force and it was still split between them. Finally we have no clue how much force people like Madara took...
  30. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    thats not how physics works. If two things get hit by one object at the same time they share the value of the force not both take the max value of the force. the force gets split inbetween them. This is the same situation with onoki and the sand. Else what you are doing is multiplying the force...
  31. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    The initial force goes through both gaara's sand and onoki so some of the force would be diverted due to that. The first meteor wouldnt matter since Onoki is still directly underneath it the force would go through the entire of the first meteor and still g et to onoki. Gaara's sand does...
  32. Rocker1189

    Rinnegan Black Receiver Addition

    Dont know why I have to say this again people like nagato did not have either six paths power or hashirama cells, so it did not work on touch which is why shizune is able to touch them. This is unlike Madara's who did have hashiramara cells making them to work on touch and we see this with...
  33. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Oh, yeah I agree then. Definitely dont think madara should be compared to onoki here.
  34. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Yes but the difference between the random fodder and Onoki was that they were not directly underneath the first one. Un top of Gaara's sand hands being there to withstand the meteor as well which more than likely protected a large p[art of the forces. In fact I would say that is where most of...
  35. Rocker1189

    Rinnegan Black Receiver Addition

    Its not an NLF, do you even know what NLF means? you are just repeating yourself against the same stuff at this point.
  36. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Actually the meteor was absolutely massive, I dont think they were as far from its centre as you think. They were maybe a couple hundred metres away.
  37. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Tbf he has jutsu that allows him to handle them all at once so.. But similarly he is cocky asf as seen against Itachi.
  38. Rocker1189

    Ohnoki durability upgrade

    Err saying needed protection is a bit weird. Its not like he was scared he would die or anything Naruto is a verse were everyone typically tries blocking (with jutsu) or dodging as it is a smart thing to do. Literally only when you are caught off guard do [people tend to tank stuff.
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