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  1. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Next Dimension - Chapter 105 The battle between Papillon and Tenma is over, but Papillon mentions that the next opponent they will send will be the last Magnate, so it is likely that the battle between Tenma and Wynver will take place in the next chapters. Well, I don't have much time to...
  2. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Did anyone take that last comment seriously?. But hey, it doesn't change that Shiori is the current face of this franchise.;) Shiori is now part of the canon. I had already seen that Cancer's armor bore some resemblance to Shiori's design, but it wasn't until a friend passed me that message...
  3. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Kurumada mentioned in his message, in this latest magazine and chapter, that Shiori Teshirogi participated in this latest season of Next Dimension. 今シリーズは手代木先生の協力をいただ。 The prodigal daughter returned to Kurumada's side.:cool: It is confirmed, the canon is Shiori and Kurumada.;) So the canon...
  4. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Next Dimension - Chapter 104 (RAW) It is interesting to see how Papillon's technique works and how it literally sends you to the world of the dead, as it takes the opponent to the Yomotsu and throws him directly into the hole leading to the Underworld, which is an absolute death for Kurumada.
  5. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    No, because literally Athena has won every battle with them, a lucky event is not repeated in every damn battle throughout the story, it is simply that the goddess is as or more powerful than them and has a more powerful army. This is what Kurumada makes clear in his story, for he never places...
  6. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Athena never uses the shield glow that repels all evil against Hades and never attacks with Nike, even in the first attack she blocked she could have attacked with Nike with her other hand, since she only uses one hand and her shield to stop Hades' attack. The problem is that Athena never...
  7. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    The Classic indicates that Athena is at the level of Hades, Poseidon and Zeus, even Saga mentions that Athena's weapons will put he at the level of these gods and the goddess could fight them on equal terms (even limited by her personality). It is also mentioned that Hades and Athena overcome...
  8. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    TheUnshakableOne's dream would be fulfilled with that. Although Kurumada will have to choose between his new sons, Alqui and Dollen, or his former son, Okada, as their histories are irreconcilable. That's for the Next Dimension version and here begin the problems with the scale of Cronos in...
  9. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    He is not stronger than Hades, although he is probably at a level close to him and I mentioned that level as probable, because there are some feats that we will have to analyze and could even increase the level of these characters, even the world of the dead only gets bigger as time and chapters...
  10. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Probably 2-C like all the mighty gods in this franchise, they can probably even be a little higher than this.
  11. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Zeus cannot avoid the changes in the time caused by Cronus, since he is not a god of time. But his goal was never to destroy the world completely, but simply to destroy the structure of the world, to extinguish humanity and to conquer this world for himself.
  12. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    He never deleted anything, but this will be for another topic and better explain what he was really doing in that scene, since his goal was literally just to conquer the world, even trying to return to this world after the battle. In fact, the destruction he was doing would be caused by the...
  13. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    I wonder if the Underworld Fairies have some function in the world, perhaps they seek out and take to the Underworld souls they find lost or wandering in the world of the living. Also, this only confirms that Papillon is broken, literally they cannot fight him in a conventional way, even the...
  14. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Well, this month's Champion RED was already published and the online version was also published for this occasion on the same day as the magazine. Dark Wing Chapter 23 Next month there will be no chapter of Dark Wing in Champion RED, probably because the authors will be preparing the volume to...
  15. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Spoiler for chapter 104. Part 104: To the Shaba (Current World) Giulietta tries to kill Sasha, but her hand stops just a few millimeters away. Tenma challenges Giulietta, but it is completely useless, then he receives Giulietta's technique, "Fairy Thronging", and falls towards the...
  16. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    It is because Sasha is the reincarnation of Athena of the 18th century, while Saori is the reincarnation of Athena of the 20th century, but due to Saori's time travel to the past, Sasha could not awaken as Athena. Some characters, such as the Pope, Suikyo and Odysseus, believed that the Athena...
  17. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Well, it could qualify as that. After all, the power of the 8th Sense overcomes death, even Athena survived a god-killing weapon like the Sword of Chrysus in canon because of it.
  18. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    The most impressive feat is the Gold Saints destroying themselves body and soul in the Wailing Wall scene and coming back in ND more trollish than ever, as they are now souls that can even move through space and time. Though I'm still in doubt, if this qualifies as regeneration, since...
  19. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    In no series in the franchise does it work, and the only goddess who has that level of immortality is Eris, a goddess that even Athena herself, using weapons designed to defeat evil beings like her cannot destroy, and perhaps Saturn, since he is connected to time. Basically only Eris is...
  20. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Sho is part of the mainline and Kurumada's own work indicates that you need a sacred treasure (a divine weapon) to kill a god (it is even mentioned in Episode Zero, where Shura mentions that Athena can resurrect after killing her and in ND it is mentioned that you need a divine weapon like the...
  21. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    In general, I wouldn't have faith with any manga in this franchise, the endings usually have several problems and feel rushed. Few endings really close the story well, like Omega (end of the first and second season) and TLC. At least I hope, that if this is the ending it closes this part of the...
  22. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Ladies and gentlemen, here is the RAW of the chapter 103 of Next Dimension. Next Dimension - Chapter 103 Spanish translation by Grupo Next Dimension. I love how Asclepius looks like a sorcerer using his abilities with his scepter, he's basically the sorcerer of Athena's army. And it's also...
  23. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Some news about Time Odyssey Volume 2 collected during Jérôme Alquié's live on Pix'Perience's YouTube channel, it is mentioned that a character from Next Dimension will appear (although without having a major role) and the fact that there is no longer talk of a July release for the Japan Expo...
  24. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    Saint Seiya: The Beginning had its preview in Japan and according to some users on Twitter it seems that the movie was well received. So we will have to see how it is, for the moment I remind your that it will be released on April 28. A complete look at the costumes of the characters in this...
  25. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    It's like saying that all Saints (or any warrior that dominates the cosmos) have the same techniques and abilities just because they are all human and dominate the cosmos, each character acquires their own abilities with their mastery of the cosmos, what you say is just something about physical...
  26. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    8 chapters this season and the next one will also have 8 chapters, as we know Kurumada made this last season complete (even one of his assistants, Izo Okada, mentioned to have already read the ending), so it was the publisher's decision to divide it into two seasons, so maybe the last part will...
  27. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    It will be interesting, but we'll have to wait for the end of ND for this discussion and perhaps Dark Wing has already moved forward with its story as well, which is another story that touches on the concept of the multiverse as a central part in this franchise (and so far the only story that...
  28. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    That's why debating with you is impossible, because basically you only get mad when you're not given the reason, even when you're wrong you try to insist with something until exhaustion, like believing that gods using senses, it was so easy to say that it's a concept exclusive to Episode. G, but...
  29. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    In the universe created by Kurumada it is clearly stated that Hades created the world of the dead (Underworld, Elyseun, Tartaros, etc.), and literally all of this disappears the instant Hades is defeated by Saori.
  30. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    I already explained why the problems with that feat in that topic (even other users also had problems with that feat in a previous topic that was rejected), and this is no longer relevant, because the infinite speed was already accepted, even if it was mainly because of the powerscaling of the...
  31. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    I only pointed out the problem with one of the feat that was described, not the other explanation, the topic had two explanations and one was dismissed because it was rather vague, the other sounded more coherent and so was accepted. Before any change, first we have to see how the multiverse of...
  32. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    The problem is that many stories are still continuing, especially the Next Dimension, so the CRT on how the multiverse of this franchise will be structured will have to wait for the end of this story, although many of us already agree that it will probably be separated into universes (unless...
  33. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    No, I simply read all this story, because I really am a fan and I follow all the manga of this franchise (and I also check the Japanese material to see if there is no mistake in the translation), and that's why I question the context of some scenes, which is the purpose of these topics and I...
  34. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    It will be interesting to see if the mangakas make any reference to this event after the end of Next Dimension, since Okada, Saito and Ueda, Kuori, Tsuda, Alquie and Dollen will continue their works after this one. Maybe we will even see the Saintias' point of view in Saintia Sho or Time Odyssey...
  35. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    As I have already pointed out, much of this is unknown, so don't act as if it is fully explained in the story. I can debate with any user, even if I do not agree with everything they propose and I can even help them with some example, but you are the only one with whom it is impossible to...
  36. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    No, I am simply explaining things as they are and what appears in history, that you keep insisting on something that does not appear that way is already different. You simply keep on fooling with something to the point of exhaustion, as I said it is impossible to debate with you.
  37. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    We do not know how he did it, other than to study this phenomenon, we do not know how he created the technique or how he acquired that knowledge, seriously stop being stubborn. Yes, but even among the gods there are unique powers, that is why they are gods of an element or idea, each god can...
  38. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    That doesn't say anything, it literally just tells you that Aiolos acquired a power that rivals the gods and was able to connect the worlds, again this is a power that Aiolos obtained in some unknown way.
  39. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    As I said, I have my doubts about this, as the scene could mean something different. Although thinking about it, I remember that Saori in chapter 14 creates a way to travel to Olympus, and warns Shun that he could be trapped by the interval in space and time, and never return, and there is also...
  40. Lancelot_de_Cancer

    Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

    This shows why it is impossible to debate calmly with some people, as some users stick to something until they get tired without taking anything into account. At the moment, there is nothing to indicate this and the only hint of a connection between the two was thanks to a portal created by Aiolos.
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