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That'd still be beyond just the planet, no?
Not really, why else would he be sending minions in the first place? If one of his weaker goons are doing so, why is he doing something lesser in an amped state no less?
What does "all" and "every" and mean to you? Considering how he's not only affecting beyond the planet and still claims this, yeah, he clearly means every Toad. It's total genocide for them. You also realize Toads travel to space and then travel back, right? They don't always inherently just...
They broadcast space, including with Toads, such as Bowser's Warp Orbit. It would also make sense considering they already have their sights beyond space, so it aligns.
Tomato, tomahto.
You say that despite the fact that the entire game, even the very room he's in, is filled with folded Toads. So you're still wrong on that regard from lack of knowledge.
I don't want a "he could be doing this" as an argument, that let's me know you aren't sure. He claimed he's...
How would it be a hyperbole that he was going to not destory the world in its entirety if he were going to literally replace said dream world after he was going to destroy it? Not only that, this isn't a villain only statement, we have one of the guardians of said location also state he's going...
Not when the term is space-time. How exactly do you manipulate a small facet of time, much less bend it to your will? I have no idea why you're claiming that this is a special case when it's generally not, I'd want to pull examples, but you'd dismiss any I say automatically. If we already...
Like, to dumb it down as much as possible.
Why would the very "fabric" (space-time) of "reality" (universe) not mean... a universe's space-time. Galaxy had the exact same term, which we also don't visually see time and space as a whole get affected. It's as if you're twisting the words to...
Except we allow statements to be considered as legitimate for tiering, unless something contradicts said statement that is being made. Which is something you've yet to even do. If you're going to claim what Olly is saying isn't true and that he's making it up, it's your job to find why we...
Also Galaxy establishes Toads live throughout several different galaxies, so if Olly is staying true to his word that he really hates Toads and wants them gone, already that alone means he's gonna be affecting beyond several galaxies.
AKM doesn't realize that he's arguing as if we only have world as a statement, but again, fabric of reality = all of space-time, that's quite literally the term for it. Your entire post overall doesn't tackle that point at all. Like, unless you can prove Olly was referring to something lesser...
It doesn't prove your point, if no special artifact is even hinted nor implied, then we do not go that route. If both Bowser and Misstar (with the latter being our most reliable as she's in desperate need for someone to stop Bowser) state that Bowser is going to destroy the dream worlds and then...
Like, as a whole in Mario games, normally whenever Bowser is gonna use some sort of prep to cause chaos, there's an entire plot for it.
Power Stars, Grand Stars, Star Rod, Dream Stone, Vacuum Block, Lucien, Royal Sticker, Minimizer, and I can go on and on. But you see that in general that when...
That's a nitpicky argument that can be applied to quite literally any character in existence. Why can't anyone planet level or above pull a Frieza then and there to say **** the hero? I mean as soon as he gets there, he states he's about to destroy it, but then the playable character comes and...
Why would we have any sort of assumption Bowser is going to be using some type of prep? Generally there would be an entire subplot of Bowser having a mcguffin either with him or wanting one to preform something. Games like Mario Party DS or 8 for example shows he already has some sort of item...
Because it was stated not just by Bowser that he would've destroyed each dream world, but it was stated by Misstar as well, and I see no reason for her to be lying about it since she is meant to be a guardian.
At the same time, it's difficult arguing with someone who not only hasn't made a proper response (meaning the quality control check isn't being properly done), but also didn't play the game so I need to point out basic things like the entire plot in the very start of the game.
To be fair they've been described as lesser, but they're at the very least consistent on what they mean in specific games.
But it doesn't matter, we need AKM to form a proper response before doing anything.
Which you've yet to address even after I made it.
I don't think you understood me. My argument wasn't, "if this isn't allowed, this shouldn't be either". It was that many feats don't require a full-blown visual of a whole universe getting affected. How often in fiction have you visually seen a...
No, you either read and address everything or you don't debate it to begin with. I'm not going to just refute one argument and ignore the rest, which is what you are doing.
I cannot form a proper response if AKM does not respond to my whole comment, because then we're not on the same page...
As soon as transforms, everything collapses and the background starts to get distorted. It's still already been stated he's going to reshape the world to his will, so we already know what's going to happen.
AKM, you completely ignored my entire comment and only decided to reply to the last...
No, he literally wants the entire world reshaped to his image, that's literally the plot of the game, not just the people, but everything. And yet again before you claim world means planet only in this context, due to Olly affecting space, it already means he has his sights further than just the...
How is that vague? It's the entire plot that he wants to reshape the world, which is further elaborated by wanting to affect the very fabric of reality, which would mean space-time by what the word even means. He's using both words in the same context. If he's going to say world, and then...
Wouldn't him making a nightmare mean he'd need to be sleeping? Which we see throughout the game he's not doing when his plan was to destroy the Dream Depot. He'd be destroying it one by one, but it'd need to be done fast due to how many dreams are there, literal countless per day. The creating a...
Isn't that just Bowser creating his own dream, not ruining or affecting others? Emile further elaborated that the dream was pre-existing before the events started, meaning Misstar wasn't concerned about Bowser's Nightmare, but about the Dream Depot from Bowser wanting to destroy it.
For a tl;dr, she agrees with the feat being Low 2-C. Corruption had an argument, but destruction overall is much more likely as a whole and its evidence much outweighs it.
No offense, but if we already see space get affected, and how "fabric of reality" by definition is all of space-time, then that's moreso a nitpicky argument in all honesty... if Olly were to say universe, it would be no different in terms of argument. Also Olly isn't being cocky here nor does he...
These are the Japanese scans. As you see, destroy is the main term being used. For a tl;dr, he destroys the dream worlds and then replaces it with his own. Which is much more different over him ruining it by filling it with his own dreams.
So you made this a staff thread despite having obvious intent to go after specific verses. Again.
So, going by our current standards: "Immersion is an ability which allows one to cross the boundary between fiction and reality and enter the imaginary locations depicted in books, paintings...