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  1. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Allow any downscaling/upscaling in specific ranges where it's shown to be linear, ignore anything else.
  2. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    It has been 48 hours (I think) and three staffs disagree with this. No movement for the past few hours, can we declare this rejected or...?
  3. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    There was 10 or 15 comments accusing Damage of being biased, but I didn't see your ass say anything about "obstructing the thread". Now I make one comment refuting the very foundation of that idea and suddenly you have a problem with it? Nope. Keep quiet.
  4. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Love that the expectation is that "Damage is actually just unprofessional and "acts like that because he personally dislikes the idea of the thread", " But in reality, Damage gave compelling reasons to disagree with the thread, directly addressed what OP was proposing, and then clarified he...
  5. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    The GOAT of basic common sense /j Seriously, I hope this thread gets made soon, we have objective contradictions in cosmology between media, therefore it's impossible for one to claim they share a cosmology.
  6. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    It's uncertain what extent one would be able to use this liberty. If we already have records on what canon information Toriyama gave to the producers, could someone bring something that's anime-only and argue that Toriyama influenced it and thus it's canon? How much evidence would he have to...
  7. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Finally someone I can actually have a conversation. I mean, yeah. But do you honestly think we should extend these very particular instances to every single thing the anime has added to the story? I mean, we've established they're both different worlds as per Akira's own words, as for your own...
  8. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Two.
  9. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    It's so hopeful to see the (more established) DB supporters being reasonable. If you think about it, OP is making a list of Akira being involved in the productions of the show. Or validating these other medias as "Dragon Ball" This, however, is not definitive evidence that these separate...
  10. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Never claimed otherwise. But you guys have the numbers on your side and that's easy to weaponize. Not allowing this is better.
  11. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Okay. Let fans decide. A YouTuber thinks Goku is City level, sends his fans over to the forum, Goku is now City level regardless of validity of arguments. No, while I think Staff decision alone isn't valid, democracy isn't the way to go for that very reason. The majority can simply be composed...
  12. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    Common ahh mistranslation. He says to enjoy both "the anime and the manga". You guys are COMPILING 2018 ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED ALREADY.
  13. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Canon

    That's over 10 agreements in less than 3 hours, this is why Staff agreement needs to be prioritized. Motivated and organized fans would be able to approve anything they want otherwise. I disagree for Damage's reason
  14. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    I have all the relevant scaling on my Manga Speed blog, it references each chapter. Yeah, only Vegeta and Goku would get their 2-C ratings back. Speaking of which, I'd probably have to revamp the speed scaling since Goku doesn't scale to his god form in base anymore. Sorry. If you could contact...
  15. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    Later on, Trunks keeps up with post-heal Rose Black, so he'd get his 2-C back within a few chapters no?
  16. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    THAT'S STILL NONSENSE! It doesn't matter if it's a grand multiverse, each series is written by a different author and elements from each series are still unique to their own. Like BRUH. Please, let Deagonx make a thread to uncomposite that stuff.
  17. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    I mean... Thread is over, Damage's gonna make the changes very soon.
  18. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    The entire foundation for this composite cosmology BS is the fact Akira was involved in most series. Like, how does that stop the very independent writers who are free to write filler from creating their own ideas for dimensions? Why would DBS Manga have to share the same dimensions as DBGT for...
  19. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    I'm gonna be honest. I know 90% is a hyperbole, but still, I don't think this mindset is healthy for the debate at all. And I'm saying after having a meltdown one comment earlier. Saying it's not worth arguing for one inconsistency because other exist is not the way to go. In my scenario, we...
  20. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

    Oh my god, YES! Finally someone had the balls to say it. Base Goku being Low Multiversal was so iffy. I agree, no questions asked. Furthermore, I'd like to ask. Do you intend to ever tackle this "all DB media has the same cosmology" bullshit soon? The manga version having the same dimensions as...
  21. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Do I look like I give a flying ****? You can suck the thickest part of my dick. I barely log in this Circus anymore. Your point is disingenuous in it's core. We have a less reliable source claiming a multiplier that is not even directly stated, and you're gonna use it as evidence of Kaioken and...
  22. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Great time arguing with a wall, mind actually paying attention to my point this time? Idc about not using BP for downscaling anymore, I'm trying to remove Zarbon's multiplier which comes for a less reliable source than the Kaioken, and contradicts a, again, very specific range of power level...
  23. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Have you attempted reading what the point actually was instead of trying to chime in like an asshole without full context? My point is that, we still abide by Battle Powers in the sense of, "If X's BP is higher than Y's BP, X > Y", not that we abide by it as a linear grid for Attack Potency. We...
  24. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Jesus Christ... What part of MISTRANSLATION you don't get? Read. "Raditz: 1,500 Note: This was originally given in 1989 in Weekly Jump. It has also been used in numerous video games, including Super Saiyan Densetsu for the Super Famicom and the recent Attack of the Saiyans for the Nintendo...
  25. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Apples and Oranges. It doesn't MATTER if Battle Power is inconsistent, we still abide by it and if someone's Battle Power is higher than someone else's, we still scale accordingly. Your argument is absolute nonsense, because while BP is inconsistent at the early DB level, this does not hold...
  26. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Mistranslation and Akira himself corrected it.
  27. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    But Kaioken is a CANONICAL multiplier which has a CANONICAL BP increase. 24000 from Kaioken X3 is 3/4ths of 32000 from Kaioken X4 That makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Zarbon, who has 23000 to 29000 BP between transformations, to be several times stronger. This implies 24000 to 32000 is also that much...
  28. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    Nah. Zarbon is 23k BP Monster Zarbon is less than 30k via being weaker than 1st Zenkai Vegeta 29000 BP cannot be "several times" stronger than 23000 BP Because we know 24000-32000 BP is a 1.25x scale.
  29. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)

    We can't. Zarbon's multiplier contradicts Kaioken x4 Goku outright.
  30. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    Ouch. That's some A-Class debating skills right there. Absolutely amazing.
  31. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    I'm usually the first one to be against downgrades of this kind, and honestly we should settle for Gohan being 1/8th of this value. Super Cell would scale somewhat via harming him with a normal blast. It's the best scenario that will satisfy both sides.
  32. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    Ngl, I got cooked right here. But still, Gohan should be 1/8th of his own Kamehameha via scaling with Majin Buu
  33. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    The scan still is good for support. And having bad arguments acknowledged as righteous leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Speaking of which. Consider that Gohan SSJ2 didn't charge his Kamehameha wave nearly as much, and that Buu is several times more power than this version of Gohan, and we have...
  34. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    No, Null. That's bullshit. How can "level" attribute to an adjective of uniqueness when LEVEL means MAGNITUDE. The quality of MAGNITUDE is being given directly to the technique "Level OF TECHNIQUE", yet he claims it means "level of uniqueness", which is nonsense, it does not mention quirkiness...
  35. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    Apples and Oranges, the text EXPLICITY talks about the LEVEL of techniques Gotenks displayed. And somehow, inside your brain, you thought "level" was referring to how ridiculous and usual the techniques are, even though the word has NOTHING to do with this description. Lmfao. Nah, SSJ Gotenks >...
  36. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Cell Games Saga revisions (Dragon Ball Z)

    I agree with this sentiment. I think while Solar Kamehameha (which isn't even an official name in Daizenshuu, it's just a regular Kamehameha fired from a powerful individual) The Kamehameha wave was never, and I quote, NEVER portrayed as a technique that could kill someone of similar caliber. I...
  37. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Ki Manipulation removal

    I believe I made a valid point about one aspect of Ki that's proposed in the OP. I still agree with most of it, but I believe you should take a look at my post above.
  38. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Ki Manipulation removal

    I can get behind all your scans, but this is bullshit. He is talking about the size of their power crushing him, it makes NO narrative sense storywise for Piccolo to state that "Their power alone could crush him" in a sense that they could beat him. That's OBVIOUS. We already know that as...
  39. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    Damage basically said, "THAT BOI THICC"
  40. The_Yellow_Topaz

    SSJ2 Gohan should NOT be 2x stronger than Super Perfect Cell

    Oh, we'll get there when we get there. I do have a tiny bit of insight to change that little format, but essentially I'd like to give most characters a "higher with X technique" rating
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