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  1. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    There"s nothing to Scale Kisuke = Aizen , except for a vague statement that is contradicted by multiple other statements from different sources.
  2. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    Wait a minute , my mistake she's 5C in with the anti hierro weapons.
  3. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    EVen if you use vsbattle profile how is Yoruichi equal Aizen , she's high 6A and he's 5C
  4. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    What ?
  5. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    Bruh. Idk if your joking or not , but What kind of Logic is that ? VS battle wiki calcs are irrelevant in Bleach lore. Base Aizen has been consistently stated to be without equals. Also CFYOW scales Base Aizen far above Toki who is comparable to Yoruichii. Your Logic makes no sense. Maybe...
  6. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    Aizen has superior stats and KS. While Urahara is superior in intelligence. In a straight up fight without prep time, Aizen would win.
  7. Ssr4vegito

    Keikaku: Aizen vs Kisuke

    Not really equal in power
  8. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    If Ginjo was stated to able to fight Res Hikone, shouldn't he be atleast 4A or 3C normally ?
  9. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    That's Ginjo amped with emotions
  10. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Is that all ?
  11. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    What are the reasons for Hikone being 3-C ?
  12. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    @Arc7Kuroi did you try translating CFYOW or just used the Viz translation for scaling ?
  13. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    So maybe the Soul King did devolve. But wouldn't that mean he's not on the same level of transcendence as before ?
  14. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    In the first scan it states he reached similiar existence as SK. Second says he surpassd the State of God. He attempted to evolve and did gaining a new and final form form and powers said to transcend everything which means he did transcend again. In Ichigo's case we already know he is above...
  15. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Aizen later loses the power he gained but grows stronger in Muken to possibly surpassing butterfly form
  16. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Yes. Nothing is there on ppwerlevel. It just states Butterfly Aizen reached the same state of existence. He could be weaker , equal , stronger. In the Databooks. It states Butterfly Aizen reached the state of God and became a replacement for SK. SK was a being that transcended Quincy and...
  17. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Never specified. Butterfly Aizen became a replacement ,Monster Aizen evolved into an higher existence. Even if SK is weakened his state of existence doesn't change. Aizen transcemded into an even higher level. The difference would be same as Shinigami Aizen and Mullet Aizen
  18. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    I got different translations from different sources. I don't know how accurate it is , so i may or may not brong it up later.
  19. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    I think you should read what i wrote properly. I never said they are HD in mathematical sense. I just said how Aizen explained his evolution using the 2D 3D stuff.
  20. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Monster Aizen is on a higher level of existence than the Soul King. Logically SK shouldn't be able to sense him.
  21. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Explain please. How does his understanding of SK and tech has to do with him guessing Aizen's powers ? It's only after he saw the Kurohitsugi that he knew Aizen got stronger.
  22. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    The whole Aizen is stronger than monster Aizen might be a translation error. Also how would Kisuke kmow TYBW is stronger than Monster Aizen if he can't sense the reiatsu ?
  23. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    I think you should probably read it again. The the second page where say "this reiatsu , it's Captain Zaraki" and the other panels are shown them sensing it amd shouting it's captain Zaraki. Can you send me a scan for that. I never said reiatsu can't be sensed simply by being hybrid. You can't...
  24. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    @Decieved3596 Kubo directly says Ichigo regained the power which defeated Aizen, which was his Dangai/Deicide version. Kubo directly says Aizen became stronger compared to his previous Deicide versions. The amount of cognitive dissonance is amazing. Yhwach was talking about when Ichigo...
  25. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Dangai Ichigo was shitstomping someone who transcended even the Soul King. The difference between Butterfly Aizen and monster should be atleat same as Shinigami Aizen and mullet Aizen.
  26. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Nah. I just say what i believe is likely logical. I personally don't believe TYBW Ichigo and Aizen are anywhere near the power of Dangai amd Monster forms. Kenpachi is comparable to their current level. So Narita didn't create a massive powercreep in CFYOW as people say.
  27. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    What makes you think that ?
  28. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Seems like you don't actually understand what transcendance means , it's a state of being. it's not something Kenpachi can attain naturally as he's not a hybrid. He's a Shinigami and it's not that inconsistent. Both Ichigo and Aizen lost their transcendant state at the end of Deicide , TYBW...
  29. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Another miisinterpreted thing. There isn't actually a moment where Kenpachi's reiatsu couldn't be sensed. I'll explain what happens there. https://xfs-214.batcg.org/comic/7006/d9b/61244d48502f702592714b9d/9130863_1520_2400_330180.webp?acc=eKi3C-v2soEfjt9nDLijkw&exp=1676548551 1st panel - A huge...
  30. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Hikone should also be weaker than Butterfly Aizen considering the latter is an actual transcendant being and the former still beeds the hogyoku to attain true Godhood which is state butterfly Aizen was in.
  31. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Where did Zaraki show hint if transcendance ?
  32. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Also Gin refers to FKT Aizen having no equals.
  33. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Which is why i said that Urahara should not be scaled to FKT Aizen. Considering how vague that statement is and there are multiple statements and feats that contradict the interpretation used here.
  34. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Also Aizen still had room to improve. In SS arc he could only cast kurohitsugi at barely 1/3rd of it's power. But can do better kurohitsugi in TYBW
  35. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    An off Guard Aizen who was conversing with Isshin and Ichigo. Same with Urahara. There's 0 stuff pointing him going stronger or weaker.
  36. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Both are different cases . In Grimmjow's case he's directly stated to be below Barragan in power. If the same novel you use to scale Grimm says Barragan is stronger then Barragan is stronger and he would logically scale above Grimmjow's feats. There are also no actual statements that contradict...
  37. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Speculations like these are what creates unncecessary powercreeps that don't actually exist.There's actually isn't much evidemce that Kisuke got massively stronger. The Aizen statement is already contradictory and is possibly just misinterepreted. Then there's thd hell arc where it is implied...
  38. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    tbf most of them were worn out from theor previous battles.
  39. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Yes. This is my first and main interpretation. Aizen also likely has the most reiatsu. Yama's zanpakuto has more firepower and Kisuke is smarter.
  40. Ssr4vegito

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    Aizen This us what you're talking about.
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