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  1. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    I originally posted a calc. The calcs math was accepted but the OG reason was rejected. The reason was heaven in DB not being accepted in 2019. However in 2023 the VSB now accepts Heaven as Universe sized. Omega original contested that the arguement that Heaven was not visible is flawed since...
  2. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    If you know how to call the admins then I'd appreciate if you did. But yeah, I think we have a solid position on the arguement
  3. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    If you look at my reply on page 2 just a few messages above this one, I demonstrate why Heaven's direction is within the rotation scene. Mssg 102#
  4. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    These two videos should solve the issue. As you can see the position of King kais House is opposite to where Heaven/the check in station direction. And in Super you can see Goku fired his Kamehameha infront of King Kais house at the same angle as when he landed on it for the first time...
  5. Torrus_Silvèr

    Hi Ultima, I wanted to talk to you about the Buuhan 2C upgrade/thread since there are many...

    Hi Ultima, I wanted to talk to you about the Buuhan 2C upgrade/thread since there are many questions I have about the thread and a possible downgrade to low 2C if things are cleared up. I've spoken to a few others about this and they agree that I should speak with you on the matter...
  6. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Yeah go for it.
  7. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Surely destroying the Macrocosms includes destroying all the spacetimes + all the dimensional walls with them. How could that be equal to jusy destroying the Dimensional walls. I think this video on infinites would be a better Watch than me explaining it
  8. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    There are levels to infinite. The afterlife infinitely dwarfs the Universe
  9. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Alright. I no longer have qualms about why the feat meets the criteria for 2C, however I do wish to understand the difference in between Buuhan's destroying Walls feat and say Omega Shenron destroying the whole Macrocosm feat. If you are willing to input. What is exactly is the...
  10. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    My gripe is more so about what is actually being destroyed. So far evidence suggests that the dimensional wall will be destroyed and the Universe inside the Living world would be destroyed. I understand that destroying the Dimensional barriers alone is 2C by some others. But I am still...
  11. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Since the Afterlife and Kaioshin Realm are much larger than the living world, could it not be argued that the Universe within the living world would be the only thing crushed as a result of Buuhan tearing down dimensional barriers even if he tore down all dimensional barriers in U7
  12. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Thx Thx. I have some more clarity on the situation with Anguilla and youself
  13. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    At last a propper answer. Ty.
  14. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    I see. I suppose then my real issue is that it is being proposed that U7 will be destroyed by Buuhan rather than the dimension within the living world that is labelled as the Universe.
  15. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    There is no real proof for this. Also the the original post stated that destroying the wall between dimension in itself should be considered an AP feat as he is destroying the fabric of spacetime. However it was never stated that Buuhan was destroyed the fabric of spacetime for the whole...
  16. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    Any particular reason for disagreeing with the whole Universe in the living world part?
  17. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    It was proposed here https://vsbattles.com/threads/db-toei-about-buuhans-tier-2-rating.152322/ That Buuhans technique outside space should scale to his AP in which this was agreed upon. However during the post it was mentioned that the daizenshuu stated that the space Buuhan was warping would...
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  18. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    It is 1:30 am my time, so any further messages will be replied to tomorrow at some point.
  19. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    The whole connection and links is more relevant than you think. Because when Vegeta destroys the HTC he appears on earth, rather than the area between dimensions. It means that if Buu if effecting those alternate dimensions, then the ones that were originally linked to the Human realm may...
  20. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    Never said it was. Just said that their are links. To other dimensions from human realm. Kami's lookout is literally connected to like 3 or 4 dimensions alone. And the demon realm being part of the Living world seems to keep being missed
  21. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    Considering infinite can just mean very large, that doesn't seem like a relevant statement. But ofc since you didn't read my original message, or the prior message where I mentioned more than just the HTC, does indeed remind me that this is a DB thread.
  22. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    "Should" sounds like an assumption. As far as I can see, as long as the Universe is crushed by dimensions like the HTC like the demon realm, the whole macrocosm is not required to be destroyed.
  23. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    Just because 1 spacetime in the macrocosm is being crushed, does not mean every dimension in macrocosm will be crushing it. It just means that dimensions will crush it, not all. Again I mentioned that the HTC and a few other dimensions are already linked to the human realm/the Universe, which...
  24. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    This is not specified. As I already highlighted in my original message which I would ask you to read. The Human Realm, the East West South north galaxies. Are linked to multiple dimensions already. These are the dimensions that could be crushing the Human realm which is the most commonly...
  25. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    No, the living world is where the living being live. Humans and demons are both alive. The daizenshuu, if you just look through the IMGUR link in my original message clearly outlines the Universe to mean the human realm and the demon realm being an addition to that to make a the living world...
  26. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    "This space would cover the living world and wipe out the Universe" My message clearly shows images to demonstrate why the living world = "The Universe" + Demon realm. Therefore warping the Living world to destroy the Universe, can simply mean that only 1nof the two dimensions I the living...
  27. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    My message is to clarify that the guides heavily suggest that "The Universe" in the daizenshuu is mostly used to refer to the Human portion of the Living world. So I am confused as to why it is used to refer to the macrocosm, if that makes sense
  28. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating

    Can I get more clarity on why the Outside Space technique is going to destroy U7 as opposed to "The Universe" within the living world. If you look at the outside space scan and the daizenshuu "The Universe" is commonly referred to as the Human portion of the living world. Living world being...
  29. Torrus_Silvèr

    Janemba definitive edition

    Listen, Gogoani on Mobile bombards you with **** and Hentai vid/game adds every time you change time stamps on click the screen to much. There were many tabs to shut down Edit: I had to somewhat change the website name
  30. Torrus_Silvèr

    Janemba definitive edition

    Getting those scans took a while so I don't think your message had loaded yet. My bad
  31. Torrus_Silvèr

    Janemba definitive edition

    Actually the movie does support it. Along with a few more daizenshuu profiles. (My IMGUR isn't working unfortunately) Movie states that the barrier is stopping Enma from using his powers to govern the afterlife...
  32. Torrus_Silvèr

    Janemba definitive edition

    Sorry Luffy :(. But the daizenshuu states that Janemba Sealed Enma, and that this fact is what caused the laws of the living world and afterlife to go hay wire. Janemba is not warping the afterlife. The absence of Enma's control or him being sealed is the cause, not Janemba himself...
  33. Torrus_Silvèr

    Heroes cosmology applying to DBS?

    In otherwords, for the cosmology part, you would simply say more evidence is required?
  34. Torrus_Silvèr

    Heroes cosmology applying to DBS?

    In a recent DBS 2C crt thread, DBS' cosmology was upgraded due to GTb eing an alternate timeline to Super. An interesting interview from DBH Developmental story writing team says the following. "Suzuki : We were all involved in the full debut of the characters . We combined the worlds of the...
  35. Torrus_Silvèr

    Hi, was wondering if I could be invited into your DBH discord. User name @Torrus Silvèr#4775...

    Hi, was wondering if I could be invited into your DBH discord. User name @Torrus Silvèr#4775 Apparently I had sent an image that was meant to be kept secret on this discord server. I'd been asked to remove the thread in which I posted it
  36. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    Fair enough. I was post number 5569 on page 56 and alot of the former posts didn't seem like they were addressed. I did post it Here
  37. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    In order to pass this revision, what further steps are required?
  38. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    Not to be rude to the calc members. But based of the waiting list in the calc evaluation thread, this could literally take years for them to even look at the post let alone re-evaluate it. 😅
  39. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Afterlife size increase Hi, this post is about getting the size of the afterlife increased...

    DB Afterlife size increase Hi, this post is about getting the size of the afterlife increased based of the fact that Heaven is a Universe sized planet (which was accepted) but cannot be seen in the skys of the afterlife. Since you are the authority on DB, I think your input would greatly help.
  40. Torrus_Silvèr

    DB Toei Afterlife size change

    Its size is unknown. Even if we assume tbe afterlife itself is the size of a Universe, a single star lighting it up would still be rediculous. So I don't think this fsctor changes anything
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