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  1. Incutones

    Goku's Speed.

    How much ftl is Goku at this point?
  2. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Hmm. If there's no difference then how do the opponents predict where he will be when time is supposedly stopped? If time was stopped it wouldn't matter if they predicted where he would be when he could literally attack while time is stopped.
  3. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Except that it was literally stated & not contradicted. It hasn't been shown to work perfectly on opponent's stronger than him. You're referring to the time skip which has shown to be different.
  4. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Because of that that would only make them resistant to Hit's time stop.
  5. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    I never said it stopped working completely against stronger opponents, I just said that it isn't as effective, which would explain their resistance to it.
  6. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    They've shown to be different though. This was shown against Goku in the tournament. Time-skip was when he skipped time & Goku predicted his movements ahead of time, & time-stop was when he was shown to be attacking while time was stopped & Goku couldn't do anything about it until he grew...
  7. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    One skips time & one stops time, that's pretty different.
  8. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    I initially got the two mixed up.
  9. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    You're talking about the time skip. Time skip & time stop are apparently two different things completely. The scan i'm referring to is talks about the time stop.
  10. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    But it doesn't contradict anything. It worked on Jiren, but it wasn't as effective as it normally is, because of its weakness.
  11. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    The manga is secondary canon & is only disregarded when it contradicts the anime. The time stop thing doesn't contradict anything in the anime.
  12. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Hit's time stop is not as effective against stronger opponents, whereas other characters in fiction have time stop that's effective regardless of the opponent's strength. They should only be resistant to his time stop because of this.
  13. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    I was referring to their profiles of how they have resistance to time stop in general.
  14. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Also, I believe I mixed up time skip with time stop. The manga scan i'm referring to states his time stop isn't as effective against stronger opponents, which hasn't been contradicted yet. And before someone says, "but it worked on Jiren", it doesn't say it will completely stop working on...
  15. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    I was referring to the tournament right after Goku overpowered it, Hit improved above Goku & used it again.
  16. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    I'm a bit confused about the time skip thing. Sometimes he's shown to stop time & sometimes he's shown to skip it.
  17. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    It never said that it was completely ineffective against stronger opponents, just not AS effective. Jiren seeing right through it would support that point as well.
  18. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    That just helped my point, that the stronger you are the less effective it is. That implies that a certain level of power is required to resist it. When Hit improved above Goku, Goku wasn't able to resist anymore.
  19. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Isn't it considered secondary canon & only disregarded when something in it contradicts whats been shown in the anime?
  20. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Lol. I like how you say the manga is canon and try to say that hakai only works on weaker opponents. Goku vs Zamasu disproves your point. I honestly forgot about that. Oops. What about the time skip thing though?
  21. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    The manga's canon & gives details of things the anime doesn't explain.
  22. Incutones

    Resistance to time stop & existence erasure.

    Why does Goku & Jiren have resistance to time stop if it was stated that Hit's time abilities aren't as effective against opponents equal to or greater than him? Other characters in fiction that have time stop has it to where it's effective no matter how strong the opponent is. Shouldn't their...
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