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  1. Sorari

    Marvel Comics: Low 1-A Revision (pt. I)

    I'm not being nice, I'm being formal. Because if I'm not, he could find my tone offensive and purpose a ban. But are you saying is that it's not only okay for a moderator to delete comments that he doesn't like (regardless of whether or not they break the rules) but that those who oppose the...
  2. Sorari

    Marvel Comics: Low 1-A Revision (pt. I)

    I didn't say that there weren't explanations, I'm just pointing out that some of them are weak (in the sense that it's very reliant on specific interpretation of vague terms as opposed detailed exposition). I understood that you wouldn't like what I had to say, and I wouldn't have an issue if...
  3. Sorari

    Marvel Comics: Low 1-A Revision (pt. I)

    Transfinite is just another way of saying "beyond finite," and it doesn't even have to be literal. In a vacuum it's a meaningless term. Of course if something pertains to transfinite numbers (a very specific concept) that's one thing, but the word transfinite in itself should be taken with a...
  4. Sorari

    Immeasurable VS Infinite VS Omnipresence Speed

    Nothing, because pretty much every high-tier profile would have to be changed, and there's no way anyone would agree to that.
  5. Sorari

    Immeasurable VS Infinite VS Omnipresence Speed

    The thing with immeasurable is that there are things in the universe that scientifically aren't measurable (this is not merely a limitation in technology) in this case consider Planck Time Unit (tP) which is = 5.4e-44 seconds. So if you moved a certain distance D under a tP it litterally...
  6. Sorari

    Immeasurable VS Infinite VS Omnipresence Speed

    Always hated that "infinite speed" is below "immesurable speed" because just because something is beyond the means of measurement doesn't necessarily mean its infinite. But if the speed of something is infinite then it's beyond the means of measurement. The term "irrelevant" being rated high...
  7. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    He didn't. Read the page I posted. He wrote of the beast approaching him, then he had a writer's block, meaning that he infact didn't write his own death. In fact he didn't have access to his typecorder when it was ripped from his hands before he was torn to shreds. My issue with the scene...
  8. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    There's no downplay, no fallacies, or ignorance. I've read the stories. And I'm bringing up facts, and I can back up everything I post. If you have any specific piece of evidence you're interested in don't hesitate to ask. I understand that there are some people who are adverse to facts to...
  9. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    Why would I have to "have it in for comic books" because I think that a comic book character is misplaced? I don't think Naruto characters should be Tier 2 either, does that mean I have it in for Naruto characters too? Then please explain it. Because if you go through the Tier 0 characters you...
  10. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    I never understood the metafiction ranking, because it contradicts the forum rules. But still "viewing the rest of the multiverse as mere fiction," is something that you see in half of the Tier 0 characters. By this same logic something like the Matrix (or most Isekai) should be below our...
  11. Sorari

    Question regarding Infinity

    I should also point out that in ordinal exponentiation w^w is defined as sup y [ sup x [ x^y ] ] which is a natural extension of a^b as used in classical arithmetics. But to go back to your original question, if card(w) = X, then card(w^w) = X as well.
  12. Sorari

    Question regarding Infinity

    Yes. X^w (where X is a cardinal and w is an ordinal) isn't really correct in the first place because you're mixing two incompatable classes of numbers. And X^X doesn't make any sense, because while 2^X is defined as the Power Set, there is no definition for 3^X or 7^X or X^X. That said...
  13. Sorari

    Question regarding Infinity

    Normally when people write 2^X for cardinal numbers they're referring to cardinal exponentiation, which is defined by the Power Set. For finite numbers the Power Set equals ordinal exponentiation, but when it comes to transfinite numbers it doesn't. In math we have something known as hyper...
  14. Sorari

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Brahman is the World Soul, where all souls come from and where all souls (gods, men, animals, insects and even rocks) return to when they get out of the cycle of reincarnation. Not sure if I'd call it omnipotent in the same sense the Christian God is omnipotent.
  15. Sorari

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    I know the Lucifer universe is the same as the Sandman universe, but are they the same as the DC universe? I know Sandman started in DC (because Vertigo wasn't a thing yet) but it eventually turned into its own continuity. With the occasional crossover and cameo, but should they be treated as...
  16. Sorari

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    It really doesn't, and it sets a bad precedence. The issue is that it's heavily reliant on interpretation with no real support in the comics. And like I said before, the Writer is dead. He died in Suicide Squad, and even Morrison acknowledged this. NRMA: One final sidenote - what was your...
  17. Sorari

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    The Monitor being referred to as the Over-Monitor. The Overvoid is a different entity from the Monitor.
  18. Sorari

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    @ClassicNESfan I understand what you're saying. But how does this translate to higher cardinalities of infinity? I've never seen anything in DC mention higher infinities. But it seems to be a prerequisite for 1-A. You'd think that to quallify for this tier the fiction have to make it clear that...
  19. Sorari

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    Is there a board consus on metafiction? Because looking at Morisons older works (Animal Man), and looking at his newer works (Multiversity) there definitely seems to be a disjoint. Back then he saw himself as God, but now it's the Overvoid that's God. And take the Empty Hand. This being was...
  20. Sorari

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    @Kepekley23 I wanted to disagree with you on the Overvoid, but I think you just convined me. So you got my vote (for whatever it's worth).
  21. Sorari

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    I don't get the hype for the writer. The writer has no feats or explanation given (in Animal Man) that makes him appear all-powerful beyond the fact that he says he is. And most of the hype seems rooted in personal interpretations with no real evidence to back it up in the comics. And the fact...
  22. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    Stories in Marvel are written to be self-contained. The only exception to this are events and tie-ins (and this is done for promotional purposes). Other than that Spider-man can fight crime in his own comic and fight in outer space in the Avengers, that's how it goes when you have multiple...
  23. Sorari

    Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter 53 | Manga Goku Stamina Upgrade

    Even if Goku didn't eat he was meditating. And just because he doesn't need to eat while meditating [assumption] that doesn't mean he wouldn't need to eat if he fought or moved around normally.
  24. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    Not only is the avatar theory not a theory but baseless conjecture (from the reasons you posted), it's outright contradicted in the comics when the Abovel-All-Others is described as the Supreme Being (meaning there's no entity or being more powerful than he).
  25. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    And yes, it's made clear in the story that AAO is supreme.
  26. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    Then in what way does TOAA surpass AAO? The only justification I've seen is that he's metafictional. Because they're both the supreme creator of the Marvel Multiverse. Except that you're not dismissing this based on any portrayal, you're basing this of your own theory based on what Brevoort has...
  27. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    And I'm not sure whether this should be added here, but since the Immortal Hulk is publishing and all. Al Ewing doesn't think that TOAA is stronger than TOBA (well he says "maybe" see the Tweet below)
  28. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    No it doesn't. But I'm arguing that it shouldn't be added or propagated as a real argument. I enjoy this debate. And I don't think it proper decorum to make a response and then ask a moderator or an admin to close the thread before the other guy can get a response in. And just because...
  29. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    No, a feat is something that is or has been done, such as the creation of the multiverse. Existing as the embodiment of a non-fictional concept isn't a feat, and it doesn't make the characters anything more than what they are. The prime example of this is the Empty Hand from DC. No one is...
  30. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    I understand that. But these are not feats. It's just that certain writers considers him to be the manifestation of writers, editors and readers. But as far as power is concerned that doesn't mean much. It's similar to Morrison's the Empty Hand from DC. He's "piracy manifested" but that doesn't...
  31. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    My main problem is with the "avatar" because it purports to be part of a comic story, when it really isn't. If I bring this up on Space Battles (or any other forum) someone is going to point out that there's no mention of an "avatar" in the story and that I'm just making shit up [I'm not trying...
  32. Sorari

    TOAA and "The Infinity Ending"

    I've not read the story, but I'm a bit confused based on what you said. There's canon distinction of AAO and TOAA in canon, right? It's just our interpretation of things based on how this character is thought of by different writers? Wouldn't it then be better to say 1-A to 0 based on the...
  33. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    I'm just pointing out that it's a baseless fan theory. Like I said, there's absolutely no evidence to support this. Also there's no really no reason to do it before the Infinity Ending is released digitally.
  34. Sorari

    One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

    This is ridicolous. TOAA has been called many things, "The One Who Is Above All," "The One Who Is Above Even Gods," and now The Above All Others. But it wasn't until recently when TOAA was revaled to not be omnipotent that excuses like "a mere avatar" came up. There's no evidence of this...
  35. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    Technically we don't know how powerful TOAA is either. It seems that Ewing is going for a TOAA = TOBA approach. But it's not really made clear yet. And the story is far from finished. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.
  36. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    The same tier as TOAA (Tier 0/1-A) since he's his diametric opposite? He's a lot like Yog-Sothoth in that he can't/doesn't interact with creation personally and YS is in Tier 0 too.
  37. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    Am I the only one who notices this? Ewing wrote both of these passages. TOAA TOBA
  38. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    But wouldn't it be easier if his profile was made now, and his tiering changed as the story progressed? After all, he is an established character. And people might want to look him up as he becomes more popular on VS Forums. I'd think it would also be better because it'd give us more time to...
  39. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    The whole concept is that TOAA is light, and TOBA is gamma radiation (or evil/corrupting/mutating light). The comic even refers to TOBA as God. [1] [2] And the "I howl with many mouths." "I break with many hands." is very remenicent of the Ultimates #100 quote of "I create with many hands." TOBA
  40. Sorari

    Why hasn't anyone added the One below all yet?

    TOBA made Hulk kill the entire Multiverse including Mr. Immortal, and he even killed Metatron who was going to bring him to the next creation. [1] [2] [3] So he could very well be TOAA's equal like he claims.
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