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  1. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    The fragments of madara's meteors were larger than mountain ranges Also, reminder about Toneri being planet level based on my points about his chakra cloak
  2. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Maybe it's because I'm confusing it for the Toneri calc but are they constantly applying the same amount of energy per second or do they just need to apply this energy once and leave it to work like that?
  3. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    If we want get the time needed for hagoromo and Hamura to move the moon, why don't we just use a simple time=distance/speed formula? We can use the earth's escape velocity (which is 11.2km/s) and distance from earth to moon(385,000km) to get a time of 9 hours, 32 minutes and 55 seconds. I use...
  4. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    There actually might not be a need for a timeframe. Naruto and sasuke only put the seal on kaguya once and that one time contained all the chakra needed to seal her and form a chibaku tensei. An imperfect analogy would be to compare the seal to a rocket and the chakra needed to pull of the...
  5. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Or change them to a timeframe that is closest to what would be standard in universe. And can you please listen to my reason for Toneri being planet level based on the total timeframe? @Damage3245 please listen to my Toneri TCM argument.
  6. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Seems like I'll be creating a new thread on chakra modes and their mechanics since you don't want to actually understand my point. I frankly haven't seen a good reason why the god tiers were downgraded when they really shouldn't have.
  7. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    You also just ignored my question on what made her durability inconsistent.
  8. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    I thought you said you would stop replying. And kaguya's durability is inconsistent based on what? @Jvando @Mindovin since you're no longer interested
  9. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    I've given reasons and justifications on why this is a special case as there chakra modes have energy limits and they can freely use all the energy at once. I'm saying that the form itself has planet levels of energy within it due to the timeframe. What you are basically saying is that for every...
  10. Ruthlessleader

    Soul King creating the 3 realms

    Cool, so I know someone made no point.
  11. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    @Sigurd Snake in The Eye give your advice to damage who said this and made me think the standards were different. And Damage my point on toneri still stands, he is small planet or planet level based on my point about chakra mode mechanics. As well as Hamura, Hagoromo, Sasuke and Naruto all...
  12. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    In the bleach thread I mentioned you in, Sigurd snake eye says that the timeframe of ywhach creating the three realms is irrelevant. In the DCEU Superman page , the timeframe for him moving a tectonic plate isn't given because we don't know yet it's not struck off and his feat of being...
  13. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Look can you at least speak on the points I raised. I understand that this isn't a bleach thread or any other verse thread but to see standards that Naruto is being held to that other universes aren't is pretty infuriating
  14. Ruthlessleader

    Soul King creating the 3 realms

    Seriously, it doesn't matter? @Damage3245
  15. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Still ignoring my point that Toneri should be planet level due to use of the total timeframe which I gave valid justifications for. And let's not even bring in statement's like momoshiki being able to vaporise multiple countries worth of earth with his bijuudama or juubito summoning the very...
  16. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    @Damage3245 this is my address to your address on toneri address. And why is kaguya's ETSO not scalable to her normal AP?
  17. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    It's implied she used the ETSO to do so for all of them. And the timeframe wouldn't really matter since the TSO is launched once. It's not like she had it in her mind that "okay today I'll create 100 km worth of earth, space or air and I expect to finish by next year". She was going to use the...
  18. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    Can we at least address these points: Kaguya's creating her planet to large planet sized dimensions. Hagoromo and Hamura defeating and sealing her Naruto being able to put up a fight against her and deal major damage to her. And he and sasuke sealing her away again. Toneri being small planet...
  19. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    And if they did, the resulting AP would be 656 zettatons of energy which is far higher than my result. I still advocate using my calc since the problem with the old one was in earth's size which mine doesn't rely on so as to cause less arguments. The reason why I multiply everything with the...
  20. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    What? That's literally what is done for Toneri in the calc that is linked to his page. They use the kinetic energy and take the total amount of time. And it was accepted twice. Both from the first time and from the downgrade. You even link it in the staff only god tiers Downgrade thread. Did you...
  21. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    The fact that the physics of moving the moon inwards say so is enough proof. There is only one other method of moving the moon and that one still uses 96% of the energy required to halt it. Everything results to small planet level since whenever Toneri or the Tenseigan vessel are stopped, the...
  22. Ruthlessleader

    Calculation Evaluations - 16

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Ruthlessleader/Toneri_moves_the_moo Priority:2 (Would upgrade the god tiers, who have gotten a downgrade to 5-C) Verse:Naruto(The Verse) Description: Toneri moving the moon. A new perspective on the feat.
  23. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    No, Naruto overpowered her multiple times as well. He cut off her arm, was able to use steam release to overwhelm her eighty gods vacuum fist and was able to momentarily match her vacuum fists before eventually getting overwhelmed. The only one who was overwhelmed was sasuke. Naruto's chakra...
  24. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    The current calc assumes that you only need to exert a few petatons of energy to get the moon moving at all, let alone for an hour. Which is wrong since to stop it completely you would need 9 exatons of energy as per the calc in the op post says. And since naruto's moon stops falling to the...
  25. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    But a timeframe that was quantifiable in the calc I gave was given. And the Shinju tree calcs are uncalcable why? Don't we just have to find the kinetic energy needed for tree roots to break through the earth and just give a timeframe for it that is appropriate? Honestly, it feels like Naruto...
  26. Ruthlessleader

    On the Naruto god tiers Downgrade.

    I would like to know why the previous ratings of planet level to small planet level for the characters has been removed. There are calcs that put them at small planet level. This also ignores the lore of kaguya creating her dimensions each of which are at least planet sized with some having...
  27. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    I've made the calc blog
  28. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    Please stay on topic, the discussion is about the moon moving. Can toneri's profile changed to planet level? Do I have to make a blog or what?
  29. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    So how do I make a calc blog?
  30. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    So is it accepted?
  31. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    What are we even arguing? He has solid 5-B scaling, feats and statements. No matter how you look at it.
  32. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    @Astralking7 I meant that toneri can be much higher because his cloak never dissipates while he's doing this and all that other crazy stuff.
  33. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    Naruto's punch would also scale too. It was able to deactivate the mode. This is important because I've noticed chakra mode users don't lose their modes unless they use techniques that are too draining or they lose all their chakra. Examples: SM Naruto losing his whole mode after three...
  34. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    I know, but in the calc linked for toneri, he was put as small planet level for the total hour
  35. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    Bump
  36. Ruthlessleader

    Toneri moving the moon

    Now I know this has been discussed a lot. But I have new info on how moon's are in life. The energy required to stop the moon and send it crashing into the earth is 3.7×10^28 joules or 9 exatons of tnt. This may seem underwhelming but bear with me. As we see in the movie, everytime toneri or...
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