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New calcs have been posted that bump the Low 6-Bs of the verse to High 6-B and there's contention on how the actual calc for the 6-Bs could be interptred to be High 6-A. The profiles on the wiki also don't acknowledge the fact Ken and the rest of the characters get multiple times stronger in the...
what's exactly the issue with that? Just because you don't believe the characters scale that high it doesn't mean those characters don't scale that high
nobody is talking about Tanjiro's breath of water we are talking about that he is getting hit here, Wakatsuki's ap was at least 5x Ohma's in their fight and Ohma redirected it, current Ohma is reliably above Wakatsuki by a fair amount. Your homie gets one shot, dawg.
Ohma scales higher: Wakatsuki is 8-A, his kicks are stated a 3x multiplier, blast core is stated Waka's most powerful attack, Julius' gott toter technique is stated to be the same as blast core with rotational energy. So Ohma scales higher than this.
proof is tanji gets his own power redirectred and amplified by ohma's own power to his chin and one shot, like how Ohma nearly one shot Wakatsuki by just redirecting one of his punches while near dearh.
Ohma likely one shots: base Ohma = Lolong > Toa who can tank Julius' gott totter to the body and Julius is 8-A without amps. Ohma has the possessing spirit to amp his ap, plus the adamantine kata and techniques like flashing steel to one shot Lolong who is relative to base Ohma.
Secondly, why are you people trying so hard to downplay Raoh's goten sho when the clouds are very unlikely to be just 200 meters high, you can just watch the anime/oav to see those clouds are nimbostratus. 2000 meters, 4000 meters and 8000 meters should be the ways to go here, no lower.
if you got problems for the current fist of the north star speed ratings make a different crt, even though garuda who is sub shin level is explicitly stated to be lightspeed and he got horribly blitzed by unmotivated Juza.
Musou Tensei is more than simple intangibility, Souther's fight shows those kind of techniques are countered by touki no aura techniques such as the tenha kassatsu. Btw, is anyone willing to explain to me why Raoh is getting upgraded to High 6-A when there's simply no proof he scales to Kaioh or...
People just have to decide on how to scale the shrua arc characters, if the elite shura multiplier should be taken literally or not. Profiles need to be made for other characters in the verse like Uighur, Amiba, Devil Rebirth, Jukei etc. and different keys need to be made for Ken, Juza, Hyoh etc.
if the scaling is the rejected then let's just upscale Shachi, Kaiser to "At least High 6-A likely far higher" because they can both bully named shuras far stronger than the nameless one and should scale above said elite ones. I want to know what others think first.
the 300 shuras Hyoh killed were the elite ones who yasha states can individually take on a thousand. I see no reason not to multiply by at least one thousand if you are overall stronger than one thousand people at once, that's pretty logical to me.
They all massively upscale from the nameless asura. The nameless asura is the equivalent of Jagi in the land of the asura, he says verbatim that the all the other shuras are far stronger than he is and then we have the elite shuras who are stated to match one thousand shuras each get fondled by...
I don't mind Souther scaling to 100% Raoh tier, he literally scales to no one and Raoh does say he'd never face Souther directly if he didn't discover the secret which means even with 100% Souther would still be a significant threat.
Imo the scaling should be this, in part one:
low tiers: Ryuga, Shin, Rei, Amiba, Jugai, Colonel, unmotivated Juza etc. "At least Low 6-B" because Shin one shot Ken who was already far stronger than Jagi, Juza and Ryuga are all relative to Shin either directly or indirectly.
mid tiers: Shu...
Frankly I don't know if Souther should scale to 100% Kenshiro because the manga doesn't show the muscle buff ( the OAV's do though) but yeah Souther should scale to Raoh since he says he'd never beat Souther unless he finds out his secret and Souther only truly went all out in the second fight...
Nameless Asura scales to post Falco 30% Kenshiro, he reacts to Ken and he draws blood from him, then he reacts to and pierces through one of Falco's most powerful gento koken techniques after Kenshiro restores Falco's power. Nameless asura < Alf < Elite asuras who can match 1000 asuras < Kaiser...
and tbh Ken scales so much higher than Jagi in part 1 he should be country level. pre seals 30% Ken in part 2 is stronger than Falco who is equal to Raoh who bodied the base Kenshiro who in turn was far superior to Shin who one shot flashback Ken who beat down Jagi.
In verse fist of the north star match up:
Juza of the clouds: 0
vs
Rei of the star of justice: 0
In character;
Location is the wasteland of the HnK world;
To the death.
Getting outskilled doesn't decrease your durability and Crossbones gets hurt by plenty of people who aren't considered Cap level. So you actually change the way the scaling is presented or you end up downgrading Cross as well, I don't mind either option really.
I am not always online so I can't just read every message, what are the proposed changes again ?
Matter of a fact I did present arguments for why Yujiro getting stronger is supported by the actual manga and I stated the scaling for Yuichiro.
the statistics for the asura arc characters are all ****** up, plus we need to make profiles for the other characters like Kaiser and the nameless asura who fought Falco.
If we assume Saitama is static in power then I guess it's fine to say Boros > Orochi, because Saitama clearly views Boros as an opponent strong enough to consider him almost a threat, while Orochi just got ridiculed and beat up with a squish.
If we assume Saitama is not static in power, then...
looking at the profiles, some profiles need some updating too. Juza is listed as "Low 6-B/Small Country level" when his technique could have one shot killed Raoh, who is 6-B+/Country level+ even at 30%. Same thing for Han, Falco etc. who are Low 6-B+ despite scaling to High 6-B characters: Han...