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  1. ATARi.HMB

    About Yu Yu Hakusho's high tiers...

    Sorry for the late reply. The original statement in the anime and manga are congruently. 仮にお前がこの世の全て嫌になってぶっ壊そうと思ってもはをあたしに止める力はないしな "Even if you disliked/hated everything in this world and wanted to blow it all away/ destroy it, I no longer have the power to stop you." You could argue this...
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    About Yu Yu Hakusho's high tiers...

    Oh, I just realized. It was stated that Hiei and Kurama were A-class and got even stronger when Yusuke showed up. If I recall Hiei stacking on the Entatsu Dragon within his body is a major increase of power. We also know heavy emotions can amp individuals up by many-fold using Yusuke as an...
  3. ATARi.HMB

    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Well you're free to disagree, but the phrase is "神々がつかさどる超自然の世界" "天よりも高く、人間界からは窺い知ることができない次元を超越した天の国神々はこの地から世界のすべてを見おろしている " [ENG] "The supernatural world governed by the gods " "The gods of heaven, who are higher than the sky, transcend the dimensions that cannot be seen from the human world...
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    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    100% True. For Instance, take Dragon Ball, though the afterlife transcends the infinite lower temporal world per Daizenshuu 4 separated by space-time. We may not compare it to the way dimensions transcend in DC comics. The magnitude of DC's descriptions are proven to be more complex in their...
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    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Yup, I agree. I agree with this also. I just had some disagreements with those who believe arbitrary dimensional numbers don't prove Infinite 3D Space > Infinite 2D, but as time went on the argument was superfluous and I shouldn't have let my insecurity get to me, some users are just stubborn...
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    About Yu Yu Hakusho's high tiers...

    This is amazing points! And I say Kudos; however, I'd like to believe Hiei and Kurama were at least in the upper mid portion of A-class; as it seems an A-class in general is a country/multi-country level threat per SDF's alert notification. I use to think the SDF came due to the spike of demon...
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    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Yeah, I believe it would be a case by case scenario since I re-read the main tiering list page. It specified "universal scale" quite a view times. Referring to infinite hierarchies. It also looks like they removed numeric values and only stated their equation. For example, Yui-kui from Kado the...
  8. ATARi.HMB

    About Yu Yu Hakusho's high tiers...

    If we high ball the original text implies A-class are threat to more than 1 national unit, so it may be multi-country for higher end interpretation (makes sense as A-class are threat to human world...) As for Sensui he kinda just sand bag I guess... Later on at full power; Sensui vs Yusuke is...
  9. ATARi.HMB

    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    I thought so, but there was an argument saying that the energy required is equal; since it's infinite. Since energy vibrates on different spatial levels. I told the individual this 100% depends on the fiction or work that is being discussed. So I opened this thread as I'm trying to better...
  10. ATARi.HMB

    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Yeah, I can get that depending on what the subject matter is. I was merely speaking of orders of infinity. Basically infinite length vs an object with infinite length and width. Destroying the the object with only length should not equate to the same level of energy vs an object with length...
  11. ATARi.HMB

    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Thanks! Yeah, I believe it may have been the current. The argument was that R^5 and R^6 are congruently equal in value. Though I argued 1 Dimensional Realm can have: {x} 2 Dimensional Realm can have : {x} {y} {x,y} 3 Dimensional Realm can have: {x} {y} {z} {x,y} {x,z} {y,z} {x,y,z} hence why...
  12. ATARi.HMB

    About Yu Yu Hakusho's high tiers...

    Indeed, this is true. We also have the term of Genkai saying that Yusuke could destroy the world if he hated it all and was sick of it. 仮にお前がこの世の全て嫌になってぶっ壊そうと思ってもはをあたしに止める力はないしな "Even if you disliked/hated everything in this world and wanted to destroy it, I no longer have the power to stop...
  13. ATARi.HMB

    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    Hello everyone, as you may know I may not agree with the powerscaling for all boards, but that does not mean I don't L.O.V.E. the utilization of the tiering system. Now I have a question.... Upon some clarification and unintentional debate, I was being told the VBW's tiering system is flawed...
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    Why Dimensional Tiering is used...

    sorry, wrong section again -_-
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    wrong section...
  16. ATARi.HMB

    Ultra Necrozma vs Majin Buu

    It's still applicable, because the statement came from the manga and Toriyama's quote is still applicable. By that logic that's like saying we can't use the super exciting guides for SSJ2 and 3 multipliers because it came out in 2009 (more than 14+ years after) but even ignoring that the...
  17. ATARi.HMB

    Ultra Necrozma vs Majin Buu

    Then this may be a juicy battle. I favor Super Buu for superior AP, ability to copy and learn a technique by first glance, infinite stamina, and candy beam hax.
  18. ATARi.HMB

    Ultra Necrozma vs Majin Buu

    My apologies, there were no specifications. But even for manga Super Buu he should still scale to young Beerus whom can destroy the Kaioshin realm. Regardless, he has his candy beam, and what's the speed for Necro? How does he fight such a being who's MFTL+?
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    Ultra Necrozma vs Majin Buu

    As far as AP Super Buu should scale to Multi-Galactic given he isn't much weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks who is closer to SSJ2 Goku in the DB Kai adaptation, who could fight a Kid buu who threaten to destroy the Dai Kaio planet. But AP isn't everything, what hax does Necrozma have?
  20. ATARi.HMB

    Why not Upgrade Majin Buu?

    My apologies I am still new, and never saw the threads previously. But who presented the rhetoric? It's pretty clear cut and dry with statements, feats, cross references and consistencies that these don't even issue as outliers either. So this is why I asked, because I've dealt with those who...
  21. ATARi.HMB

    Why not Upgrade Majin Buu?

    Hello, I just want to say I appreciate what the Vs Battles Wiki is, and as excellent as its general power scaling calculations are, I love it! But as for character profiles, there needs to be a serious upgrade. Calling Majin Buu Solar System level is completely misleading, and false. It's...
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