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  1. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Your best bet for Origin is just getting a screenshot from the game. He probably has no concept art since he only appears at the end of the game, and his design is not that creative, as it's just a pure light boy. Maxwell probably doesn't have concept art for XIllia since he has concept art...
  2. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Yes, Xillia 1 was my first game. then I have played Xillia 2, Zestiria, Graces, Symphonia, Symphonia 2, Berseria, and Tales of Hearts R on vita, in that order. Abyss I own on 3ds but it is on my backlog, and Vesperia I have on ps4, but also currently on my backlog. I have heard great things...
  3. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    I am a frequent lurker of this wiki, looking of power levels of franchises on this wiki. But yes, I did come to this wiki to help revamp the Tales franchise, since it was one of the few franchises that I knew I could help on that needed obvious revamping. Other franchises, I'm interested in such...
  4. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Found this from Bisley's tales of wiki page ". While Chronos is wounded, Bisley breaks from his cage using Elle's Key of Kresnik powers combined with his chromatus transformation, which takes Chronos out of the fight. " I'm guessing using Origin's powers increased Bisley Chromatus...
  5. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    I hated that chapter, since it had too much science fiction, even though multiple Tales Games have done the future civilization, it felt forced in the Xillia series which was mostly fantasy in the first game, with some sci-fi in the second game. But I suppose it would be included if he had a...
  6. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    As much as I would like to up the tier of the Xillia cast to Low 2-C from the very beginning, there is no feats higher than 4-A it seems in the first game, changing Maxwell to Low 2-C due to actions in the second game makes little sense. However, this is conflicting since alive Maxwell is...
  7. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    It makes sense, while I agree Julius is somewhat inconsistant. NPC dialog shows that Julius was named "Crown" the second most powerful Chromatus bearer after Bisley. It's no surprise, he can handle Chronos. Plus he's the only character besides Bisley,Ludger, and Victor that can reach Level 3...
  8. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    I like Magilou, although since the voice actress did both Futaba from Persona 5 and Magilou from Berseria in the same year, I always think of Futaba now. Also I found proof that being a catalyst weakens you a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOntivumTs at 7:16 Rideaux says "You're much...
  9. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Well, it could be he was cocky since he had the Complete Chromatus, and figured Ludger didn't have that form, plus being a catalyst seems to also make you mentally nuts as well. But there is no direct statement saying it makes you weaker, so I'll concede.
  10. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Considering Julius was in pain as well in the bad ending cutscene, it seems to just be part of being a catalyst. Even if they are technically just as powerful as they were before being a catalyst, the pain of being a catalyst might have interfered in the battle somewhat.
  11. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    I believe it does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48KkzmRPdIo at 1:34, Victor is in pain due to being a catalyst. Also in the bad ending cutscene, Julius falls to the ground out of pain of being a catalyst.
  12. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Victor at full power is probably around Ludger's max power as he managed to kill Bisley,Julius, cripple Gaius, kill Jude and the others at the same time, while Muzet and Milla I believe were in the sprit world and not killed. In the game, he's probably weakened and more powerful than Julius but...
  13. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    So power wise I'm guessing it's this Origin>Complete Chromatus Ludger>Bisley Level 4>Chronos>Julius Level 3(Stated to be Crown, second most powerful Chromatus user)>Milla Maxwell(Maybe she can take on Julius? and soloed Muzet)>Jude with Maxwell spyrite>Muzet>Gaius>others.
  14. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    They made Leia weak to gunshots in the brothers ending so sad D: .
  15. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Should we assume that Level 4 Chromatus is without Elle, especially as a Level 4 Chromatus is known to almost instantly turn you into a catalyst?
  16. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Yeah I suppose we can make Elle "standard equipment" then, although if morals were on, and Ludger knows Elle is the key, this could be a weakness making him unable to use the Chromatus in certain battles.
  17. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Then I suppose it makes sense to assume Elle is on his side for most battles, although he never uses her power when in his Level 3 or 4 form, so I don't know if we can make assumptions for that.
  18. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Errr, maybe a separate key, with Key of Kresnik, since that stops his weakness of turning into a catalyst? Julius pocket watch may also quaitify as part of his equipment.
  19. Mk22Solid3

    Tales Series Discussion Thread

    Ludger I think is mostly shipped with Alt Milla and his future wife. And Muzet is also shipped with Gaius? Idk lots of ships in these games.
  20. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    My playstyle is also pretty aggressive and unsafe, and I just abuse my healers, and run away from the enemy until my allies get resurrected lol.
  21. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Have any of you guys played tales of hearts r as well. The whole plot of the game is basically destroying a death star weapon, and maybe this anime cutscene should be calced? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM44RTlAwyw
  22. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    I can see that, I remember fighting the Fodra Queen, and it took me nearly an hour since she had so many clones and time hax. She was level 100, and your characters were level 70-80. I think the game was mostly fair, if you knew how to block and sidestep, but I did remember having trouble with...
  23. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense if his Spyrite form was more powerful than his alive form as well, and Zestiria is only the second worst Tales game imo. Tales of Symphonia 2 is the worst, or Graces but Graces I like the gameplay, even if the story is worse than Zestiria.
  24. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Also about Xillia 2, should previous Xillia 1 characters like Maxwell and the Chmeriad, be scaled to Low 2-C in a separate Xillia 2 key as they are catalysts in this game?
  25. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Yeah,it's an alternate universe either way, I just remember reading staff interviews on how the world of Xillia is supposed to take place in just Asia.
  26. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Lol, I'm guessing its because Rieze Maxia is an island, and Elympios is supposed to be technically just the size of Russia? Either way, it's a obvious low ball.
  27. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Yeah, I read Ludgers first key a few years ago, and 8-C was kind of laughably low after seeing the stuff he did in the second game. and Town Level for level 4 chromatus was also pretty weak as well compared to now Low 2-C for level 4 chromatus. And also I'm happy since if there is a Dante vs...
  28. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    I agree on 2-B Origin. The main cast being all Low 2-C, I think only possibly the 4 people able to dodge Chronos attack, Gaius, Ludger, Milla, and Muzet could be Low 2-C, maybe Jude as well with the Maxwell spyrite? The other characters I don't see as very powerful, but they may scale. Ludger...
  29. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Okay, it's also at this link, I forgot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZfFQE1Gjsg, at the same time as said before. but yeah don't watch if you don't want spoilers I suppose. It's quite minor though, as it only mentions the first game and it's a character development side quest.
  30. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Yeah, that may take a while to find. I do know, the sequel mentions that when traveling to the temporal crosswords alternate dimensions, the dimension traveler is having a bug, because the temporal crosswords no longer exists in this world. Starts at 2:05, and ends at 2:33. If you just want the...
  31. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Found it, it's in a main story cutscene at 5:05 here. "In order to dispel the schism, they would have to eliminate its creator". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s75Uqk2DG9E
  32. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    I'll find the scans once I or someone else makes the profiles, but the idea of it is that the Temporal Crossroads are a realm with multiple stars and nebulae in it. A weakened Maxwell was going to destroy the Crossroads and only stopped because the main cast beat Gaius and Muzet, additionally...
  33. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Sorry for long text post, I'll post Xillia feats some other time on my message wall.
  34. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Very interesting, however you still do not aknowledge the feat of the party defeating Kronos who gave the Kresniks the power to destroy dimensions in the first place. I think of that feat as the law of conversation of energy in a way. If the power of the Chromatus can destroy dimensions, and...
  35. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Kronos gave the power of the Chromatus to the Kresniks in the first place, according to Tales of Translations. https://taleslations.tumblr.com/post/97258475191/xillia-2s-world-mechanics "To aid them in their task, Chronos grants the Kresnik clan the power of Chromatus Transformation, and Origin...
  36. Mk22Solid3

    Tales of Verse Pages

    Wouldn't there be power scaling at least since Kronos is the one that creates the alternate universes in Xillia 2, and Kronos is defeated by the Xillia cast?
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