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I don't think Kakashi hitting Kaguya was a contradiction though. I was pointing out that Base Momoshiki catching Naruto off guard doesn't seem like much of a contradiction either, especially when you consider how he was occupied by Boruto.
Is it really a contradiction though? That just makes Base Momoshiki look more impressive if you ask me.
Kakashi hitting Kaguya with that Chidori would seem like a bigger contradiction if you ask me.
Naruto (Adult Base): Dodges a photon ray.
Naruto (Adult SPSM): Dodged Delta's beam of light.
Sasuke: Can match SPSM Naruto in speed.
Kinshiki: Can match Sasuke in speed.
Delta: Can match SPSM Naruto in speed even after he got serious.
Jigen: Can match SPSM Naruto and Sasuke in speed...
@Damage3245
I see. Feel free to ask anything that's being considered. For what it's worth, I think Tobirama and Minato should have the reaction speed to contend with Obito while he's a Jinchuriki. The did manage to to outmaneuver him into Naruto and Sasuke's attack using FTG.
@Peter...
It must be highly contested seeing as how this is the 4th thread about these speed changes. Jesus, Naruto speed changes so often it's hard to keep up lol
TheFinalOrder
I'm not following. Momoshiki wondered how Boruto could sense his presence and move around freely when no one else could. He then realized that Boruto had some Byakugan blood within him, which was apparently the sole reason for these things.
That means that it wasn't intentional...
Theglassman12
If I'm understanding this correctly, Retribution means that she can't use her abilities, correct? So she's frozen in time and she can't use her abilities even if timestop didn't happen\matter.
You seeing where I'm going with this?
No offence, but if your entire argument is based around timestop and you refuse to include feats from the Boruto manga that would make it irreverent against Kaguya what was the reason for this thread if she has no way of fighting back?
Spite?
So Boruto with some Byakugan blood can move when everything is paused but someone with an actual Byakugan can't even though Momoshiki stated that was the reason? This is perhaps worse then pretending that Sasuke's Rinnegan feats trumps Kaguya's Shar Rinnegan abilities when he's the one playing...
This.
You literally have Oetsu being wary of approaching Yhwach and thinking of the best way to fight against him. We don't know how long that took. Like I said, an entire conversation happened before it hit Robert. And I didn't point this out earlier because I didn't want to nitpick, but...
The Auswählen is called and stated to be light
^ Lots of things are called light in manga series though. Just pointing out that being called "light" doesn't help it.
The statement comes from one of the most knowledgeable characters in the series and one of the members of the Zero Division, who...
Why would Gin tell Aizen and Ichigo a different lie about his Bankai? To keep his lie consistent, he would have told them the same thing. Also, that was Kubo telling us through Gin's mouth that everything we knew about Gin's Bankai was a lie.
Can't depend on a databook for everything...
What does FRA mean? And I highly doubt BM can turn the entirely of Hashirama's Wood Release into a Homie, something we haven't seen happen in battle. Maybe a Wood Dragon\Golem at the most even if it was possible mid battle.
What? Show a feat of Yhwach using these things please. Because I highly doubt he's ever used illusions lol
Yhwach has to look at the opponents in order for his Almighty to be effective. That means it's useless against someone who can multiply himself by the thousands. Even if he was successful...
Pretty sure you have to prove Yhwach can harm Naruto and survive attacks from him. The Almighty isn't as powerful as people make it out to be honestly.
This seems to be either Naruto from The Last or as Hokage because he never had both halves of Kurama when he was 17 years old. Which means that he stomps.
Ichigo's Quincy powers
https://i.imgur.com/p6C4SFn.webp
Using Ichigo as an example, every Quincy has a manifestation of Yhwach within them that's the source of their abilities. This is further emphasized by Yhwach telling Uryu that he was born with a power that surpassed his own, which is why...
Thing is it's directly stated and shown that Yhwach doesn't give the Sternritter their abilities. They're born with them. Uryu's the best example of this. He was born with a power that was possibly above Yhwach's power stated by Yhwach himself. Obviously that means Yhwach didn't give it to him...
Instead of being sad that Bleach has ended, think about the good times, no matter how hard that may be for some of us.
Although it's pretty sad that Yhwach died that way. A Getsuga and a slash? SMH.
Unrestricted Naruto wins with some difficulty or even ease honestly. Just look at his performance against Kaguya compared to Sasuke's. Not to mention that Naruto's feats are much better than Sasuke's.
Kaguya's Vacuum Palms was effortlessly destroying Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo, and Naruto not...
And the downplaying is continue..also no real proof saying that the sword is particularly very durable? do you even read the chapter where Gerard fighting kenpachi?
^Downplaying? I just stated that I have no real idea of what happened. And what's Gerard fighting Kenpachi have to do with...
Oh, so you have evidence that the sword's durability drops when it's frozen?
^ Nope. Likewise, you have no real proof saying that the sword is particularly very durable.
@Non-Bias
You don't have evidence for that and it doesn't change anything. Also it was clearly cut, it didn't "break"...
Wasn't the whole point of Unohana's death to prevent Kenpachi from holding back in a fight?
Everytime the eyepatch came of there's always a mention of how much stronger his reatsu becomes and that wasn't present here at all so I highly doubt he still uses the one that drains his energy.
Moon Level Kinshiki? Please no.
Unless you're taking LN feats into consideration (he fought against RSM Naruto's BM and Sasuke's Susanoo and took damage without dying) he shouldn't be at that level. In fact, Continent Level is too much if you ask me since Sasuke isn't as durable as Naruto and...
WeeklyBattles
Isn't AZ just cellular destruction?
The real cal howard
How are TSBs going to freeze when it'll destroy the ice on contact? The same thing would happen with Muddy Water. The TSBs would atomize all of that.