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  1. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    How is ORT above Archetype: Earth?

    Nasu stated Arcueid is the strongest in the franchise, so how is ORT above her. Even if he was stronger in raw power despite Nasu saying otherwise, and even if he could prevent Arcueid from using her Earth ability to surpass him since he changes the Earth itself, she could still beat him on the...
  2. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    When They Cry Revisions

    wait, someone said that even people like Battler are getting 1-A? can someone give me the brief/dumb downed version of how Battler is getting 1-A? not that I mind or anything. just curious
  3. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    I've been destroying their same same recycled arguments. Unlimited time works on BB herself, not others. You can't resist something not aimed towards you. BB is also omnipresent. Divine spirits, Types, ect have no feats in the Extra timeline, you ignore this and repeat the same thing...
  4. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    No? lol *Incoming derail*
  5. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Me (obviously). I have heard "wank" and "outliers" based on nothing. I doubt they'll upgrade anything, no matter how many people agree. A speed upgrade beyond MFTL is not even remotely debatable either, as BB would've blitzed them via omnipresence and not being bound by time if they were simply...
  6. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Storing them makes them physical. Simulating and storing would be harder than destroying. Effecting the Earth is altering an event in a timeline, making it an entirely different one. Hakuno could alter real reality after fusing with the core. BB's CCC is stated to dimension bust and nothing...
  7. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    BB existed and effected higher dimensions. You're also ignoring the rest of my post. Exactly, Fate/GO, not Extra/CCC timeline divine spirits.
  8. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Rani states it simulates and stores them. You ignore infinite space between the 7th layer and the core. You ignore Mystic Code Servants needing beyond MFTL speed to match omnipresent and not bound by time BB. You have no reason to call it an outlier. Extra and CCC have never shown to have the...
  9. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    The lore/story, the endings, and the feats all change and cannot co-exist. There is no room for debate on that.
  10. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Rani states the Moon Cell simulates and STORES them, Hakuno can also see all of them and can pick or do whatever he/she wants after fusing with the core. The Moon Cell also has an infinte space (which I believe is in the 4D Far Side). BB existed in 5D space after using CCC in 4D. All of these...
  11. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    They are stored, so they are physical outcomes (which is similiar to timelines). You can't simulate and store one at a time if there are an infinite amount, as you'd never reach infinite.Your gun and animal example is terrible. Also storing possibilities of the Earth counts as ENTIRE timelines...
  12. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    The Moon Cell simulates and stores infinite futures/possibilities. Storing them makes them physical to an extent, like timelines. Simulating and storing infinite possibilities ALONE is storing infinite different outcomes, which is what timelines are, infinite different outcomes; not only that...
  13. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    You can say the Servants not being on the level of a full power BB is fine, but Gilgamesh with his Mystic Code has shown to be above the Moon Cell. The Gilgamesh that stated he had no chance was the one that was weakened due to sleeping for eternity and having a Servant contract with Hakuno...
  14. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    To John: Oh, I thought Extella Zero was some sarcastic remark/joke. I'll read soon. To TheUpgrade: Extella literally does NOT fit Extra or CCC and completely contradicts feats and the Moon Cell's motives. Gilgamesh is effected by the Far Side in Extella, in CCC he is not. The Moon Cell was...
  15. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    The story of Extella is implied to be from Last Encore. Extella mentions Nero and Tamamo in the grail war at the same time, the Moon Cell has enirely different motives, ect. Extella can't be canon to Extra, as Extra and CCC ended entirely different. If we use Extra, then virtual Hakuno is...
  16. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    I have played CCC. ? He bust it and they are in space. Nothing implies BB is below multiversal being due to being under strain from the Moon Cell. Gilgamesh and the Servants were ready to face her before even knowing she was weakened. Half of an infinite multiverse is still infinite. Infinite...
  17. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Gilgamesh busted it via Ea (gif above) before the Moon Cell restores it. Gilgamesh canonically uses Ea, and it is a cinematic attack, so it can't be argued as gameplay mechanics. Gilgamesh beat BB who fused with the core. The Moon Cell also has no power over him and he literally broke free of it...
  18. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    And the fact Gilgamesh busted the Moon Cell reality marble, which has infinite spaces, possibilities that are simulated and stored, timelines, ect. Even if the other Servants are weaker than full power BB, Gilgamesh is above the Moon Cell entirely. He is easily 2-A to high 2-A in CCC ONLY.
  19. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    If she was beat via things specifically to counter her and she was toying around, then using Kiara as a debunk is especially pointless. The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything in CCC. Also I never mentioned PIS. Learn to read please. No offense... I said Servants beating BB isn't...
  20. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Also I never said any defeat of hers is PIS, I said the Servants are simply at her level. Nice twist of words. Also I've been trying to be nice, yet I get rude people to deal with, known as "Nasuverse experts." lol... Sure you guys are... Your previous debunks were all debunked in my first post...
  21. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    He never uses counter arguments to my knowledge. I assume if he ever does, it'll be something debunkable, but he will lock it before you can give a retort.
  22. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Also if F/GO Kiara is SUPPOSEDLY equal in power to her CCC self, Vsbattles logic means she would blitz the F/GO verse due to being MFTL on her page. She is either not as strong as her CCC self, or her CCC self is fodder to BB and the Servants due to BB resisting her, either one is possible. Her...
  23. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Fusing with a device that has feats beyond anything in the Nasuverse. Extraverse divine spirits are featless. Extraverse Arcueid's power is unknown, as Nasu stated she isn't from Tsukihime. Her Ultimate One can also possibly scale her to BB if it works (which it should). Amaterasu is featless...
  24. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    I sent Rani saying the Moon Cell simulates and stores them, meaning BB also has that level of power.
  25. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    BB fusing with a device that simulates and stores infinite possibilities (storing makes it physical to some degree)>destruction of something on that scale, and CCC being stated to wipe out dimensions backs this all up. It's also stated people can't even EXIST in the Far Side until BB altered it.
  26. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Mystic Code boosted Servants to her level and made them hax resistent, so BB didn't lose via PIS.
  27. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    We've only seen Servant Saver feats.
  28. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Almighty is extremely vague. Only lost because BB resisted, implying if she didn't, Kiara would be at BB's level due to fully absorbing her, which she didn't. Extraverse divine spirits are featless. BB blinks Arcueid from the normal timelines. Extra is unknown. BB has simulating and storing...
  29. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Upgrade
  30. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Arcueid can literally buff her stats to anyone's level and reduce their own. Also once again, we have no idea how powerful Extra Arcueid is. Kiara absorbed a beaten down and defeated BB and lost, the end. We have also never seen divine spirit feats in Extra to guage their power at all. BB's...
  31. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    It flat out states this Arcueid isn't from Tsukihime, and nothing shows she survived more than a deletion wall meant for Servants. Arcueid would be a cheat tier Servant against other NORMAL Servants There is no reason to assume Kiara in F/GO has the same power as she did in CCC. If she does...
  32. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    If it's such a huge thing, people can make alternate profiles for CCC Servants, since they exist in another timeline entirely
  33. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    Sarcasm or genuine? I've been seeing a lot of Comicvine sarcasm/trolls so I'm not sure, apologies. This feats list was in much more detail, but I left stuff out since Vsbattles knows the rest.
  34. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    I forgot to mention in a summary what should be changed. For BB, Gil, Saber, Archer, and Caster. AP: Multiversal+ (Since BB fused with a device that simulates and stores infinite possibilitiess/futures and the Servants scale) Durability: ^^^^^^ Speed: Immeasurable (BB existed in 4D and 5D...
  35. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Fate/Extra CCC massive revision

    These have been done 900 billion times, but me and a friend have put together some stuff that puts BB and the Mystic Code Servants at 2-A. Funny thing is I helped my friend make this for Comicvine, and I am using it for VsBattles. This we also be debunking things such as Types being the god...
  36. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    Full Power CCC Gil vs Ultra Instinct Goku and SSJB Eevolutionn Vegeta.

    Everyone is bloodlusted. Now, I made this because I'm curious on what the VS community thinks (you guys seem a lot more chill and unbias compared to Comicvine). Can Goku and Vegeta one shot him, or does Gil whip out Ea and win? I'm just curious if Gil can tank their attacks until he fires Ea...
  37. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    BB Higher Dimensional Mind and Resistance

    I mean all statements show her bare minimum at tier 2. The evidence for tier 2 is far more than that against it. There is a mountain of evidence that suggest tier 2, however there isn't any outside of speculation and assumptions that puts her lower. The best argument is servants beating her, but...
  38. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    BB Higher Dimensional Mind and Resistance

    If she isn't upgraded, and only has Type 9 and 8D or 4D mind, I can see people putting her up against other tiers of her level, and if she loses via outhax, I can see people spamming "lol Type 9 and 8D/4D mind, stalemate cuz enemy doesn't have 4D or 8D hax, gg." Isn't it easier to put her at...
  39. DragonBallSuperIsTerrible

    BB Higher Dimensional Mind and Resistance

    I made this account just to reply. I fail to see how BB is at a lower tier due to losing to Gil and the other servants. You can say said servants are only servants, thus not that far above other servants, but CCC is a different timeline, it is in a different/virtual reality (Moon Cell); things...
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