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I am not acting solely out of personal offense, and while I do appreciate the apologies, I don't think that my personal leniency should usurp site rules involving this sort of behavior. I'm willing to say that I hold no grudge of the sort, and I only seek to make sure our rules are followed. I...
Dread, it took two seconds of looking through your deep review to find that you missed Sniper responding to a warning with "LMFAO" and claimed Sniper didn't do anything at all.
You really ought to look into these things a little bit deeper if you're going to make reviews like this...
No no, messages weren't deleted (probably), I mean that he literally nuked his own account and gave his password to someone else. This resulted in him, essentially, derailing the entire report and getting himself banned indeterminately for the safety of his own account, only to come back later...
The previous thread was made by Iam, and was concerning this same topic, except with Iam as the OP and Sniper presenting these same points against it.
It is also worth noting that a lot of people ended up disagreeing with Iam (including me), but not because of Sniper's reasoning, as Cal also...
It is turning into a confusing mess, and making a new thread while debating in bad faith and ignoring warnings only makes it even more confusing. I don't even know where to start, as I was busy with exams while a lot of these things were happening and I have no idea what is actually accepted...
Repeating a thread over and over until you get a conclusion you want is a horrible idea. This is a ridiculous precedent to allow, and all changes should be reverted on these grounds.
I was literally not even made aware of this thread until after it already passed. It only passed because the...
That's the even weirder part; the original thread (and Sniper's side) won, just not for Sniper's reasoning. Cal's logic won over a lot of people. It appears that Sniper does not agree with this and made another thread that specifically involves his own logic and points, except those were already...
You see, this is the problem. We had a lot of people agreeing on the ban previously, but because Sniper nuked his own account and went rogue, all the arguments and data have been buried. This is why we need to be harsh on this behavior, intentional or not, as it gums up the bureaucratic system.
Antagonistic behavior and repeatedly ignoring warnings by staff members.
Also, it's hard to say who to summon. Cal was "on Sniper's side," but only in the sense that their arguments were similar in their goals, but different in nature.
The main opponent would probably be Iam, who was already...
The part that confuses me is, on the original thread, I wasn't even part of the opposition. I simply agreed with a different set of affirmative reasoning (Cal's). So, when I asked "what is different this time?" it was out of legitimate confusion as I could not tell what he was trying to...
I believe you were there for the original reports. It was agreed upon that none of his individual acts were report-worthy on his own, but he did it so often and ignored warnings to such an extent that it had to be addressed.
Two weeks seems reasonable enough. It's pretty light, and it should help set a standard that self-destructing isn't a viable method of escaping a report.
Note that I am not accusing him of intentionally doing such, but that if we let him do it, then other malicious actors may use it as a way to...
I believe this is a repeat of the previous thread, yes, in large part because I'm being asked to use past arguments in this thread. I don't particularly feel like wasting my time doing something that's already been done a few dozen times.
It really feels like Sniper hasn't learned his lesson. He's just blaming me for doing my job.
I find the prospect of letting him off the hook without any punishment whatsoever to be pretty ridiculous, given that he has been reported multiple times and continues to blame me for his behavior.
He also admitted that it was "sort of" a repeat of the past thread, and I am being asked to reiterate my points from the last thread. If I am being asked to reiterate the arguments from the past thread (which went on for an unholy amount of time, and I'd need to spend quite a lot of effort going...
I will say right now that I very strongly doubt that Sniper has changed, and he remains unapologetic given his past behavior. I think it is a very poor idea to let him go unpunished given his behavior, and he was lined up for some manner of a short ban in the first place. Being "helpful" does...
It's approaching Christmas for me and I've been spending lots of time with family; this is why these types of threads are problematic. By repeatedly reposting the same thread and never actually explaining why it is different, Sniper is simply rerolling the previous thread until the opposition...
I think this is a serious issue. People losing their cool and self-banning just to come back once the incident has blown over should not be an acceptable method to evade punishments.
I'll make Prom answer instead of me, don't worry.
On a serious note, I'm mostly trying to stay neutral for purposes of maintaining civil discussion without any biases to either side (as my knowledge of Touhou is limited anyways).
Yeah, I get that as an idea, but glass cannons exist and fiction oftentimes ignores such ideas. You simply don’t see it often since scaling throws away those ideas most of the time. Surely there’s an example of a lower defense student tanking at least one or two hits from a higher attack one?
I don't think the first point is too important, given that plenty of verses tend to ignore concepts like an equal and opposite reaction.
Speed seems fine.
Iffy on John's AP. I just woke up and I haven't read the series in a good while, but I'm not sure if putting his base AP that low is...
I'm glad the debate could continue in a productive manner. Given the nature and length of it, I feel like reiterating points from both sides in a concise manner and pinging past voters to take a look could help.
For example, a lot of the Mizuki FRAers came in before it was truly proven or...
I would like to question if anyone has proven that she will immediately resort to stabbing weapons before he is able to cross a rather short distance. From the scans I saw, it seems she also uses plenty of blunt weapons.
I’m not debating that, though I am making a point that overly dramatic anime fighting styles don’t tend to be as efficient as actual, normal fighting. As a result, she may not be able to exploit her advantages as well as she could, and Austin may get an opening to work with. Given her style of...
Javelins are close enough to spears, is the thing.
My point was largely that, if she uses javelins in any capacity similar to a spear, Austin is kind of ******. If she sticks to weird pole stuff, he actually has a chance.
I talked a bit to Jinsye in discord, I’ll be sleeping soon, though I...
As someone who has actually fought against people with spears, fighting against people with spears is very hard.
There’s really no other way to put it. Spears are ******* broken for a reason, and have been used for thousands of years specifically because some random schmuck can defeat a trained...
It's late and I have thanksgiving tomorrow, so I can't grab the thread right now (though iam definitely would know). More specifically, this thread is a repeat of a point Sniper made in said thread.
That being said, Sniper is also banned at the moment, so this may be a bit awkward.
I said stop spamming, you don't need to respond every other minute to a completely separate comment. Step back and make every post worth something instead of making 10 different posts saying "I didn't do anything" (when you, in fact, did).
Sniper, last warning.
My guy you can't just "ignore" someone reporting you. You're not even the audience of the message, hell, I wasn't even talking to you at all.
Also, stop spamming RVT. That, too, is a reportable offense, one you have also been warned for in the past.
Yeah, that's the thing. He doesn't do anything truly terrible, he's just consistently really annoying on basically every single thread, ever.
It's kind of a "death by a thousand cuts" scenario. Combine that with ignoring warnings repeatedly and overall being a disruption, on top of a previous...
Report filed over the given situation with Sniper's behavior, let's continue the debate over the legitimacy of this thread without further interruptions.
Reporting Sniper for his behavior in this thread. He has been previously reported for remarkably rude, antagonistic, and uncivil debating patterns. He's not a first time offender, and has received literally over 10 warnings on the thread in question from a variety of sources, going as far as to...
Are you simply not reading what's being said? The answer is in the old thread. The burden of proof is on you, and you are the one that has to prove why this evidence is new and different from what you've previously said. You have been asked this several times, and you even recognize the fact...
That was literally, not even once, the question you were asked. I have even told you as much, multiple times, but you insist on repeating an answer to a question nobody asked instead of actually answering the question which both I and Ayewale perfectly understood and stated.
Okay, I'm actually going to get frustrated if I have to continue debating with this any longer.
Sniper still refuses to answer my one, very simple question (saying "my points were never debunked in the previous thread" is probably the second most common phrase on VSBW behind "FRA," especially...