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@Illuminati478
1)I'll look into that but yeah I heard of it.
2)You're referring to their clash at the end?
3)Understandable the light speed thing is an obvious outlier from what I've heard I don't know about Gai bending space however that's not really talked about and all that relevant tbh...
@Illuminati478
1)First of all Calm down.. And it's Because you use the same arguments over and over and actually think it's credible and I don't know why but everytime Naruto is brought up you seem very ticked off for some reason but tbh I don't care that much either.I never intended to offend...
@Illuminati478
Also btw I mentioned two things and Madaras chibaku tensei was moon level but degraded for some reason and recalculated based off a toad who's height is proven inconsistent .Im done arguing with someone so close minded.And only spewing balderdash.
@Illuminati478
You have the same excuse for it what feats contradict it ? Please provide evidence of your claims because you're clearly in denial here.When has it been contradicted exactly?
->He's weaker than hagoromo
-Yet madara himself was near hagoromo with one rinnegan and no shinju tree mentioned by hagoromo himself
-Yet kyuubi described Sasuke as if he were hagoromo himself after absorbing the tailed beasts
-Hagoromo in his death bed= Moon level so why would those be...
@FanofRPGs Yup bleach is the most hax"d of HST and truth seeking balls are just spheres that bypass durability and dust anything they touch.And I don't know if Ichibe has limitations tbh.
One piece would be fodderized but bleach could likely contend with him a bit yhwach had almighty and negates everything he sees coming .Ichibe can rewrite your existence or something I believe and a few other characters such as gremmy with the power of imagination and Yamamoto who's blade is as...
and yet cell solar system buster is not legit lol sometimes the author statement are contradicted
Cell is a arrogant villain in dbz how does his character exemplify hagoromo in anyway also nothing was contradicted by showings to correlate with that route...
@Antvasima Well theoretically if we just consider the feat moon instead of moon+ wouldn't that make them both moon+ since he performed the feat in his death bed anyway?
I'll agree with what @Davy0 said about Naruto & Sasuke but madara should still be moon lvl tbh if he's close in power to hagoromo who in his death bed without Juubi is moon level than it shouldn't be a debatable matter just seems ridiculous ...
@Illuminati478
No he referred to power its not abilities madara had most of his when he was regular edo tensei and it's not a vague statement also holds more credibility than calcs since its in the manga ...