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So, for abilities.
Salem:
Immortality type 1, 3 (At least Mid [litirally impossible to destroy by ozpin, who could just stab her head over and over)]) and maybe 5 if you squint, Magic (Should have everything the maidens do), gravity manip/tk (done to the nevermore that she made into a ball)...
Because he could easily escape the explosion, I see absolutly no reason for why the explosion would affect anything but one universe, nor do I see why it should be assumed that he can survive it. He has no feats of durability, plenty anti-feats and he was planning on going around in realities...
Flowey only really knows the save stuff, and may have some knowledge on the anomaly. He never showcased any knowledge on the level of chara.
And you assume this based on what? From what we know. I think frisk going back to the very start of their journey has less assumptions.
Flowey doesn't really know it's a game nearly as much, and asriel by nature overhypes stuff.
It is also the exact thing that happens in a normal reset. The only ones memories that are left are frisk, chara, the anomaly and flowey. Chara and the anomaly would have kept their memories regardless...
The only one who actually refers to destroying all of reality is chara, so always isn't quiet the right word.
You were losing your memories by dying over and over, and everyone else does lose them normally.
Not really. The two aren't directly connected. Chara destroyed the world and then they recreated a new one.
There is no reason to assume asriel would do anything bit a normal reset.
Omega doesn't scale to Chara.
His best feat would be Low 2-C, thus making Asriel At least Low 2-C (There was a whole discussion about how being infiniotly above low 2-C is still low 2-C a few days prior.)
It's being argued whenever a savefile contains timelines as wholes.
You can't escape easily. You need to go several layers deep and fight several monsters to do so.
There is also the fact that all of the world is mediaval, and you are extremly unlikely to ever get to the cave with how much time travel takes.
Why did they do what Chara asked them to do in-canon? To disobey them? Chara can also do it themselfs, because Asriel tought he was fighting Chara when he lost to frisk.
Not even azatoth thinks that Omega scales to Chara.
No. LV 20 frisk is the one right after sans' fight. After you kill...
Priority: 2 (Scales to most characters)
Verse: The Gamer
Feat: Lolikiano pulverizes a giant golem, and anorhter calc for the lifting strenght of the golem.
User_blog:Ricsi-viragosi/Lolikiano_pulverizes_a_golem
That was a sdide-justification to them scaling to chara, and that's being questioned here.
And we don't do it for frisk either, yet they can create save files at will.
The multiple timelines has the problem of how does the anomaly themself interact with said timelines? The reason that Chara and co. were dowgraded to begin with was that we can't know for sure if they can affect multiple timelines at once, and yet Sans is talking about the anomaly when he refers...
The second part stands for the fact that Frisk, when they fell undergroud, overwrote Flowey's save files with their own, and yet we don't make them Low 2-C for it.
Even if we assume Save Files are low 2-C, we never scaled anyone to it only for deleting and overwriting them.
The statement that would fit is jumping left and right, which would fit for someone who reverses it to a previous state.
But again, we don't assume frisk to be Low 2-C when they fell for overwriting Flowey's safe, right?
The dicsussion is mostly that Omega scales aboe chara, that every save file is Low 2-C because save files contain information by defintion and that Flowey is 2-B for creating his own, personal world and destroying everything else.
The last one might be a misinterpretation however.
It is vetter established... We saw what it's like, and we know that that's what bill wants.
The books, which were used as reasoning for bill being 2-C to begin with. The nightmare realm is the fume between universes.
Also, we know he escaped his universe destruction by going into the nightmare...
I think his argument is that while he wouldn't be much weaker Han shouldn't directly scale.
And I think he quastioned why he didn't do what loli did to the golem. Plus, he alwats should have some mana potions.
The calc should be either 8-A or higher me thinks. Cube law and all would make it's...
I feel that this comes up with characters that are litirally unmatched and view others as fiction (litirally sometimes).
There are several characters that are capable of affecting the plot for a story they made, which I can tecnically do too, doesn't mean my plot manipulation works on my...
I already explained this...
He doesn't have to destroy reality to be a danger to it, since his plan is to make it into a lawless hell.
There is absolutly no reason to assume that the fabric or reality didn't mean the iniverse, since the universes are divided by the nightmare realm...
Ditto does nothing? Why would it do nothing?
This is factually wrong. It can transform whenever it wants, and does so on memory if it can't locate an enemy to transform into itself.
She cannot freeze him solid, I already explained that why. Her glyphs only restrict his arms, why that would make him unable to flare his aura I don't know.
You took hours, and I already said I can't right now, be patient.
No. As long as it's not a different key, skills with transformations still affect this.
Hell, it can transform into a being that is supposedly mountain sized, so that means his transformation on it's own can give it that range.
Are you questioning him being able to escape and create pocket dimensions? Really? It's on his profile.
On a phone, but he can do it by flaring a mana aura around himself, and that's on tought.
Yes, and it can vary up to tens of kilometers, which it can achieve of its own.
Also, what?
Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and...
That's just her summoning a glyph there (And would you look at that, she did need to make specific movements to get it to work). That doesn't mean that her glyph can affect someone hundreds of meters away from her.
Plus, that seems like dozens only to be honest.
They prevent him from moving...
Neither gravity nor glyphs stop him from going to a pocket dimension, and not only does she not flashfreeze people completly, his forcefield would nope that.