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claim; Aizen's hogyoku is not visible and it was not visible when Yhwach destroyed it
reply; "This might be because of her clothes"
The answer given to support the claim; Aizen's clothing was also torn apart
I explained this above and also Gin did what he said but Hogyoku was still loyal to...
Yhwach also pierced Aizen's clothing 💀
Also, Iirc, this claim is based on statements from the novel anyway, but I'm too lazy to find it. In any case, in TYBW, Aizen's hogyoku is fused with him in a very different way than in Monster or Base form.
Hogyoku doesn't appear like this, it's like he's completely one with Aizen. Yhwach pierces this point in TYBW, but since Hogyoku has fully merged with Aizen, it no longer looks like this
Tybw Aizen has completely merged with the hogyoku. Moreover, if the Hogyoku is destroyed or something else happens, he will still fulfill Aizen's wishes/regeneration.
And can you open these two profiles so I can add matches?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Zeref_Dragneel
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha
The example you gave is completely irrelevant. Zeref does not use this anywhere for offensive purposes, he just knows its ability. Also, the reason why they call Zeref's hax passive is immortality, I don't need to open CRT here, this time rewind ability of Zeref works in case of his immortality...
Because when Zeref's body is disintegrated, his Immortality passively rewinds time, a feature of Immortality type 8. Zeref cannot do this at will, nor has he ever been able to passively rewind time while in battle. He won't be able to either when Itachi's genjutsu manipulates his mind
...🗿 Luckily Itachi doesn't have the AP to disintegrate Zeref. And even if he could, he wouldn't do it because he has tremendous intelligence and foresight.
EDIT:
I checked this again;
alr, this won't work against Itachi.
By the way, if I remember correctly, in about 3 hours, it will be 24...
I guess he thinks his magic will protect him or something but Iirc, his magic isn't even 4D, the only thing that makes Zeref 4D and Low 2-C is Neo Eclipse
Also, if I have to add, Zeref cannot use this offensively. As stated in the profile, he can rewind the moment he dies. You should stop calling it "passive", it has nothing to do with passive anyway. If it were a passive hax, you wouldn't be arguing with others that you could choose and use it...
Now has Zeref ever had a battle where he performed a feat of analytical prediction like Itachi? I think he did something like this against enemies in the Alaverez arc. But this is much different than Itachi's
Okay, prove to me that Zeref will do this for attack purposes. Can Zeref choose this as he wishes, etc. We also need evidence for these, but the priority is usage.
Irrelevant, completely irrelevant. What does what you say have to do with being Passive? If you are trying to prove that Zeref did this even after death, look at the end of the FH Zeref vs Natsu section, you will find better evidence. (Still, it has nothing to do with being passive, but)
I'm writing it without using translation, and you wrote it that way because it means what you said.
I don't remember using a phrase like "zerefte resets time"
Iirc, Zeref can't do this the way he wants and it's definitely not something like a starting move
I don't know if such a thing is possible in VS threads, but Zeref never used haxes like TS for offensive purposes. (Iirc, It says so on your profile too. He can only turn back time when he dies) Moreover, I wonder if he can choose this according to his own wishes.
alr, what does this change? Natsu is already superior to Zeref in terms of speed and AP, I don't remember if he allowed it, but what does this change? Knowing how to rewind time does not mean he can use it as he wants.
"initial move doesn't matter" well this is getting a little scary. I don't know how Zeref's analytical prediction works, but his ability to rewind time is definitely not his starting move and Iirc, he can't use it to his heart's content.
What are you talking about about Natsu? Did Zeref have hax like this in his first fight with Natsu?
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bruh I debunked literally everything you said, we shouldn't go off topic by going on too long.
+ Also, Zeref cannot perform Low 2-C destruction whenever he wants, during this time Itachi can put him under Genjutsu effect. I think the time reversal hax happened when Zeref died, but even if it wasn't, this isn't the starting move.
Zeref will not die 😕
There is no such thing, you can open a thread if you want but
Calm down, just a question
No such thing. I advise you not to bring your personal problems into this, because I have completely refuted the Zeref High 3-A issue. If you don't think your arguments are...