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I remembered why Sasuke didnt use genjutsu.It is because Ay wasnt alone,he was there with Darui and a skilled genjutsu user(i forgot his name)so they could help Ay,or Kishi just forgot about Sasukes genjutsu.
"the reason why a Biju can't be affected by normal Genjutsu (although never stated) is...
So,Toneri can easily throw him into space with Silver Wheel.Also Toneri would realize how Noctis's tp works after Noctis will use it 1 time,then he will just vaporize him with TSB's or use telekenesis to make a trap,or will just fire his intangible attack.
It is not noted in his profile because of the translation issue(it is noted that they can destroy on molecular lvl),Oonokis jinton works on molecular lvl and TSBs are stronger than that.
Sasuke didnt use genjutsu against Ay,Ay meant that even the sharingan user cant fight h2h with him because he is just faster.But in the end Sasuke was able to outplay Ay and hit him with a chidory.
So,he has to be close to opponent,if he has no counter to TSBs Toneri can just vaporize him.Also a question,can Noctis survive in vacoom of space.Toneri's Silver Wheel can throw Noctis to space very fast and it has a a country range.Can Noctis teleport that far?Noctis has to throw something(i...
Sharingan didnt work on Ay?What chapter is that?Also keep in mind that a person with a simple 3 tomoe sharingan can have a superior genjutsu to another simple sharingan user.Itachi noted that.
You can express you opinion but you also have to accept facts,a character A cant have resistance to hax B if he never showed resistance to it,his tier is irrelevant,unless he is diamensionaly above.
You cant give Goku resistance just because he is stronger,his tier is irrelivant and he doesnt have feats.He cant have resistance unless it is noted in his profile after CRT and some feats.
I this it is better to close that thread,it goes nowhere.
...over him or absorbes someones chakra).Toneri was able to control thousands of puppets and fight with them against Naruto while he was blind and now he has Tenseigan that allows him to see 359*.I dont know how much is Noctis skilled but Toneri isnt that bad in Taijutsu as Naruto landed only 1 hit.
The last vote was for about 4 hours ago and results have already been added.Maby someone could bring facts and people could change their minds or something like that.
Edit:I mean,people here only mentioned Noctis's abilites,nothing more.
I heared that somewhere but i dont remember,nevermind.Also,do both of them use the same energy,limbo clones can be touched only when using six paths chakra or sage mode(not sure).I reread chapter 674 to make sure,Limbo blocked Narutos stick made out of TSB and at the same time was invulnarable...
@Akreious
Goku can get out of basic genjutsu by powering up,but not Tsukuyomi or other stronger genjutsus.I dont remember clearly but can the person even move while he is inside Tsukuyomi?I mean even if Goku starts nuking the area,it is just the illusion inside Tsukuyomi,is that right?
What do you mean by saying "characters on that lvl"?Goku is still a 3D character that has 0 feats on countering mind manip,i dont see how Goku resist to a tsukuyomi or genjutsu.You just said that Goku is resistant to genjutsu because he is stronger,that is not how it works.
No,I compared Kurama to Obito,there is a huge gap between their power,thats all.Goku just literally has superior physical stats,nothing else.Even 9A character with strong mind manip can affect Goku,i just want to say that raw power cant give you resistance to something that you never showed.Now...
You claimed twice that i am wrong and i know it,what?That is just MY opinion,i watched both shows and i can have my own opinion,you can agree with that or can not.I am not trying to downplay them i just told what i learned from DB,they rely on their strength and speed.They just throw strikes at...
@ShadowChild'sReaper
I watched DBZ and almost every non canon movie and now watching DBS,i consider myself as a big DB fun.
"The only reason she beat several Naruto clones was because of the Ash Killing Bones" Yes,so what?She can do the same to Goku and Vegeta.Also,keep in mind that she was...
...could not(both of them have some kind of precog),she can handle both of them(thanks to sharingan and byakugan that allows her to see almost 360*) in h2h and one shot with ashe bones.Nor Goku nor Vegeta showed good skill in h2h combat(they are like ninja fodders maby even worse in terms of h2h...
I dont see there "countless lords of cinder".You want 4C Solair by statement when Namless King has a lot better feats and is definetly stronger.Anor Londo even in their prime was feared by Calamit,what about him.Also,what about Artorias and the Abyss Watchers?
@Overlord775
I know about the lore of DS."gwyn, the fist lord of cinder, was alone powerfull enought to banish the nameless king"So,Gwyn was able to banish the namless king....How do you know that he forced nameless king to leave Anor Londo,Nameless king batreyed gods and joined dragons maby...
@LordGriffin1000
"Also Sasuke doesn't spam genjutsu like Itachi, not saying he won't use it just that it's not his main focus"
Yes,but it doesnt mean that he will not do it,i dont think that Sasuke is stupid enough not to use a genjutsu especially when the opponent is stronger.Also,Sasuke...
I dont really see how Roshi is more skilled than Naruto,he may be skilled in DB verse but thats all.
Naruto takes it via better techniques and stamina.(especially clone spam and rasengan varieties)
In my opinion it was Regenerationn,not shapeshifting,it was actually shown how she transformed her body out of pure chakra.Just my point of view.(not sure if that applies to sharinnegan Madara,he didnt show that).
isnt Goku 5b only with kaioken x4 kamehameha?
Garou takes this via better ap,better h2h combat skills,adaptation and Regenerationn.He just goes h2h at the start of the match and destroys Goku without giving him a chance.
@TeenAngel101
"Again, she negates NINJISTU. None of The Beast's powers are remotely ninjitsu related."
Verses are equal in battles.So, mana=ki=chakra=any other energy.