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Because the characters that link the fire have never ever dispayed even remotely equal feats.The whole feat is vague and still gets accepted because "Reasons".
The whole verse has no back up feats,that is the problem.Why is DS so special?Other verse gets nerft all the time because of the Outlier card and in Dark Souls you can be Solar System level even without dispaying a tier 6 feat or a proper tier 7.
The verse is wanked.
Let's put it like this. In fictional verse A, a character called "God" creates the universe. This universe is generally 9-B to 9-A in terms of potency. By your logic, this God's universe creation feat is now an outlier and they scale to some low-tier character at 9-A.
How is that even...
^The verse has not feats on that level.And the whole powering up the sun feat is vague in the first place.
How isn't that an outler?Can you show actual feats rather than linking the flame?
I agree, both Kurama Avatar and Susanoo are stronger than their other forms,I did a revision about this,to add "higher with Susanoo and Kurama Avatar" but it didn't finish.
I haven't played BB myself,but seen gameplays etc.
I don't even know,by the first look it is tier 8 at best.But as I said I haven't played it and can't judge.
Actually,Sasuke should have resistances to all of this via Sharingan,he was able to counter Itachi's Tsukuyomi even with simple 3 Tomoe Sharingan.And this form has EMS.
But anyway,if hax doesn't work the only thing Sasuke has is Susanoo,lighting techiniques and other standard techniques.
But...
Madara is physically equal to Naruto,not stronger,but completely equal.That's why he was able to fight the clones.Sasuke is also equal to Madara when it comes down to ocular powers.
Sharingan genjutsu in Sasuke's case is sleep manipulation,paralyzes inducement,fear inducement, and illusion creation.
Edit: Forgot to add Mind manipulation.
^Sasori needs only a little scratch on his victim to kill it.
In a direct fight between these two,Sasori will win 8/10.AP wise Deidara is stronger no doubt but he will still lose.
^Sasuke is in the same league as Naruto when it comes to striking strength,but Naruto is still a stronger.
There is no such thing as base Sasuke or Rinnegan Sasuke,there is just Sasuke,he doesn't have forms like Naruto.
@Mindovin
That is what I meant.When Hagoromo and Hamura sealed Kaguya,Hagormo was in base,not a Juubi Jin.Just like his dead form.He stated that Madara was approaching his power (One eyed Madara without Shinjuu tree) and even Kaguya's,I suppose it means that Juubi Jin Madara with dual rinnegan...
That 5-B feat was performed by Hagormo pre Juubi Jin.
So I guess Juubi jin Madara is almost equal to Hagoromo as stated by himself and after attaining double rinnegan and rinnegsharingan he becomes stronger than Hags.
As I already said in this thread,the downgrade isn't consistent.And people will create upgrade threads in the future.First it is Madara and then everyone else.
@IMadeThisOn8-1-2017
And this all gets nullifed by the fact that She absorbed the energy from infinity tsukuyomi when she was transforming from Madara's body.
And can we stop with these speculations and theorious of yours?From the start and right to the end your revision is based on your...
Because nothing supports your opinion?
Again..
The Lord's that link the flame are vastly higher than most characters in the series on their own.
That is false,no indication of that in the whole serie,if you played it you would know.Some lords are stronger than normal bosses,some are weaker.At...
I looked.
Momoshiki vs Kaguya is a heated one and not everyone agrees on him being stronger,I get it.
My point stands still,you can exclude the one about Momoshiki.There are other strong points there and you can't just ignore them.
@LordGriffin1000
Yes,this is the Star Level feat of the verse,extremely vague by the way,and there was no reason to scale it the normal AP.
Oh,and the one who links the flame,sacrifices his soul.
@Paul Frank
This is very simple:
You are wrong.
Yeah,the downgrade looks fine,from a glance.
But are we really going to ignore the fact that Hagoromo divided his powers into two and gave them to Naruto and Sasuke?The fact that even one eyed Madara without Shinju tree was approaching Hagoromo?The fact that Both Naruto and Sasuke can fight and...
I can't....
Where do you get this information from?Certainly not from DS serie.Because in DS, Lords of Cinder are not superior to the rest,some of them are even weaker.Like Abyss Watchers.
And still you gonna ignore the fact that there is no star level feat.The feat you are talking about is...