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The barrier in SMT 1 was to stop YHVH from flooding the Earth IIRC.. And affecting any significant part of the Expanse is still Low 1-C either way and they still obviously scale to those parts. Even i myself and many others agreed they don't neccesarily scale to 100%. But to a notable one
You can't just say i didn't show any proof each time. I showed that they can stop the Expanse from passively doing something it does well.. passively. Explain to me how doing said feat somehow isn't significant
She literally said it's a wall of their strength. If they have the power to stop a Low 1-C structure from doing whatever it does passively by literally just exerting passive energy by existing how would they not punch with the same force? And why would not we not assume the entire Expanse is...
1. Kings being only random encounter demons is false. The Kings were bosses in Nocturne and Apocalypse so they have relevancy outside of Devil Survivor. (Plus they were even sub bosses in other games like IV and Strange Journey)
2. C'mon man. DC is a franchise with over dozens of different...
I understand if it's your perspective that you see it as faulty but as Paul Frank said even if i didn't bring up the scaling for the verse on this it would apply either way cause it's simply upgrading the size of the cosmology which everyone scales to and buffs the scaling chain as a byproduct...
May we please have input here; https://vsbattles.com/threads/smt-upgrades-part-1-low-1-c-boost-to-infinity-and-beyond.107931/ Sorry about this but we really need some more votes
Is there even a point to talking anymore? We're just recycling the same things over and over again. This is why i would just wait to hear different opinions..
It's clarified to be a "wall of power" by Amane and is sustained by their power. Abel and the cast literally have to kill the Devas so that the barrier weakens demon world can actually affect the human one
Yes it does. You guys keep saying the Expanse statement used purely for time warping even Stephen says the structure itself is above time and said character dosen't need any extensions to warp time. Either actually adress that or leave the point alone. And again, outside is not transcend. That...
How is it time travel if Stephen specifically notes the place itself is transcendent over time, Darksmash? Properely address that. Also do you have anything else to say? Otherwise i'll count your vote as an agree for the thread @Egernago
Transcend does mean something but you keep relating it a hyperbole or some other word. And i specifically mean transcend in the context of being beyond the limits of something. Not simply surpass, not be above
(To Smash cause this comment came late) You are literally the one saying dimensional levels can only be accessed by a specific type of proof and another proof that is not said specific proof is automatically wrong.
I know. They are levels of infinity but they don't have to explicity state infinitely above each and every time. Stop treating that way of higher dimensional access as the only possible way of getting it
Stop bringing up Attack on Titan. I don't know what that coordinate is or how it works and you haven't explained it. And Stephen says "a place" for saying transcending as he's very clearly referring the structure itself. And this case of referring to something physical he's saying the Expanse...
The Expanse is a bit different each time around but it's still the same general thing like all demons. And we literally used DLC to scale characters all the time on this site. So saying this one is somehow different would be arbitrary
He's not trying to force you to downgrade. He's telling you to make your own CRT about the Devas if you feel that strongly and stop derailing my thread. Cause that's not how things are supposed to be done
When did i ever say they scaled to it 100%? I said to scale to an extent. And again either...
You're addressing a point which isn't actually relevant to what i'm saying cause i've already addressed why scale dosen't matter. Either address my actual point or concede
No. I said cause being able to signicantly affect the space which transcends all points in time is Low 1-C. Do not put words in my mouth. Matthew Schroeder
The Expanse currently has 2-As as smaller part of it. This is what i mean. Stop saying that. Low 2-C is a lowball. Is there any to lock this board until more people come or something? @Ant
I mean a 2-A verse isn't just Low 2-C. And "beyond the limits and beyond the scope of" and "outside" of something are quite different. And Matt i literally had to explain to you profile scaling that you could've checked for yourself but whatever. And infinite statements and stuff are nice but...