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  1. Shazam121

    Hero of Kvatch hax addition

    I've read a large part of the Spacebattle page at one point or another. It's a great compilation of information, but like most threads and discussions of its kind, it largely ignores anti-feats. Now could you point me to some specific feats, rather than linking a huge thread to crawl through and...
  2. Shazam121

    Hero of Kvatch hax addition

    That's ridiculous. Source please. CHIM is mentioned like 3 times in the games and always in vague and contradictory terms. Only one person we meet in-game claims to have it (Vivec) and you can beat him to death with your fists. And we don't even know if anything above the Divines or Daedra...
  3. Shazam121

    Hero of Kvatch hax addition

    The entire mantling stuff is a mess in TES, the games haven't yet made up their mind if it matters or not. In ESO we learn that people have mantled Sheogorath before (Haskill being an example), but in Oblivion I think we are told that Sheo has never tried this before(?). I know some people think...
  4. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    Same issue with this site. The actual source never explains what the 'darkness' is, the site just decided themselves. And keep in mind that even the Monomyth claims that spirits existed before the concept of time. But you are probably right that one can have both type 8 and 9, though they be...
  5. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    Yeah but the problem with those is that it has no direct source for it. It's just the wiki making a claim. That site often mixes up Oblivion and the void outside the Aurbis (Sithis).
  6. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    Well, this is what the Monomyth has to say on the subject (admittedlly the Monomyth is a pretty weak source): "Some are more bound to Anu's light, others to the unknowable void. Their constant flux and interplay increase their number, and their personalities take long to congeal. When Akatosh...
  7. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    But is there any mention of their soul (vestige) and consciousness being erased? There are some sources that say Daedra are cast into the 'void' aren't there? Would a void be considered nothingness? In the past, this used to be High-Godly regen, but idk if it means anything nowadays. A tricky...
  8. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    I don't think they are reliant on their concepts though. It's implied that the et'Ada existed before the concepts they came to embody. That is to say: they possibly (?) created their concepts but they don't need them to survive. Type 9 seems to be a superior form of immortality to me. Hmm...
  9. Shazam121

    The Elder Scrolls Additions

    They have type 9 immortality... which appears to be very similar to type 8 on the surface. Reading the description of type 8 immortality seems to imply that an individual is dependent on a concept for their immortality. I don't think the Princes are dependent on their concept for their...
  10. Shazam121

    TES Minor Additions

    Definitely disagree with the use of Daggerfall images :P Far too low quality for my liking, not to mention the Princes have changed a great deal since then. Though I do think we should use a consistent art style for their profile pics. Right now some use in-game images, some use cartoony...
  11. Shazam121

    TES Minor Additions

    If you are adding something (new ability etc) Self Love, make sure to add a small justification for it.
  12. Shazam121

    TES Minor Additions

    I agree there is some difference. However, Daedra can still be soul trapped; Mannimarco even planned to trap Molag Bal's soul into the Amulet of Kings to ascend to godhood in ESO. Which is why I said the difference may not be all that.
  13. Shazam121

    TES Minor Additions

    Yeah, I'm not denying the possibility. I'm just not sure what to make of it. Cus from a meta perspective a vestige is just a demonic version of a soul (ie the good guys have souls and the bad guys have a vestige), how would that work under standard battle rules?
  14. Shazam121

    TES Minor Additions

    Well, functionally a vestige behaves just like a soul. So I don't know about soul manipulation resistance. Didn't know what BFR was at first, but the Princes already have summoning and teleportation.
  15. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Oh yeah it would be low 2-C. "With wanking I could say that a planet = 2-A." With wanking I could maybe take it up to High 1-B... but we shouldn't do that :P
  16. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Ofc I know. That's really basic TES lore. But that stuff maxes out at High 3-A. What proof do you think there is for 2-A ratings?
  17. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    They are almost certainly somewhere in Tier 2. But the inconsistent nature of the lore, its general vagueness, the fact that a large part of it is myths and legends makes it difficult to be precise. That's not accounting for anti-feats or how weird the TES universe is compared to our own. So I...
  18. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Do you agree with the unknown rating? Certainly seems the safest bet to me.
  19. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    That one seems to be locked.
  20. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    I considered leaving Alduin's 2-C rating, but in the end, I didn't think we knew enough about kalpas and how Alduin resets them to really say. And again with the 2-B stuff, I don't think we know enough about these realms or how they are created and managed (for example in ESO Bal needed...
  21. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    And thanks Ant for the help today ^^
  22. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Green can you edit Magnus and the Hero of Kvatch too? They are still listed as 2-A.
  23. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Just these two profiles left, they are locked so I can't edit them: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Magnus https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Champion_of_Cyrodiil
  24. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Hmm perhaps the issue was with my spell checking app. I turned that off and the images don't disappear anymore.
  25. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Okay I re did the Arkay page, is it okay now? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arkay
  26. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Did I do something new wrong?
  27. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    It shouldn't in this case and even if it would that's a really tenuous reason to hand out such a high rating. Princes have specific numbers of realms (usually 1 or 2).
  28. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Yeah, but none of these characters are ever said to have control over the entirety of Oblivion. The best are some vague implications with Akatosh, which are in turn contradicted by different sources.
  29. Shazam121

    A few Alduin Revisions

    I'm not intentionally. But when I add "Notes" at the bottom they disappear automatically.
  30. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Aeyu said to leave the images to him, as I was formatting them incorrectly. So I will just focus on the text.
  31. Shazam121

    A few Alduin Revisions

    Here you go: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1325984 So, should I just change the text and leave the images to you?
  32. Shazam121

    A few Alduin Revisions

    That's me. We are changing all the 2-A profiles to unknown. However, whenever I change the rating the profile image disappears and I have to add it again. Not had this issue before.
  33. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Anyone else having issues? I keep getting logged out and the profiles keep locking and unlocking.
  34. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    I edited a couple of pages and the profile images have disappeared after I published them, anyone know why?
  35. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Okay these should be all of them: Barbas Umbra Aldui Vivec Mannimarco Numidium Talos Lorkha Magnus Champion of Cyrodiil Akatosh Arkay Stendarr Kynareth Zenithar Julianos Sheogorath Hermaeus Mora Boethiah Malacath Azura Meridia Clavicus Vile Molag Bal Mehrunes Dagon...
  36. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    That's hardly quantifiable. Everything can be called the soul of Anui-EL, that's his role. I'm ready to start on the edits. I think we should start with the characters that don't properly fit into any one faction. So these ones: Barbas Umbra Alduin Vivec Mannimarco Numidium Talos...
  37. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    We should also remove Vivec's 2-C rating, unless someone knows why he has it. His Unknown with CHIM rating seems sufficient on its own. And probably Alduin's 2-C (and 2-A naturally) rating while we are at it, as we don't know much about Kalpas or how Alduin resets them. Also, I think the 2-A...
  38. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    Yeah, I've heard it was outright stated that Dagoth Ur was more powerful than the Tribunal.
  39. Shazam121

    Changing all 2-A profiles for TES to Unknown? (Discussion)

    It's cus I like Sotha Sil, but I don't have much interest in Vivec. And most of what I know about Sil comes from ESO, I never played Morrowind for more than 10 minutes.
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