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Yes, I saw the interview. It was a good find. I'm just saying that it doesn't tell us anything that we don't already know and account for. It isn't enough justification to attribute new abilities to the characters, and it isn't a necessary justification in and of itself for the statistics we...
In context, this was almost definitely just talking about the Anti-Life Equation. It has nothing to do with scaling to the Ultra-Monitor. We also need more than a vague interview quote to scale those other lines.
That's a misunderstanding. Superman's timeline feat didn't involve the conventional Pre-Crisis DC multiverse. It only involved several diverging timelines. There's a note on his page clarifying this because we've gone over it several times now. He scales to a few 2-C feats and characters, but...
Well, I'm trying to present both arguments as fairly as possible, but yes, it does feel more like Darkseid's necessity is only really ignored in alternate universes. From a narrative perspective, that doesn't make a lot of sense, but from a meta perspective, it's most likely the result of...
Sorry. I think I somehow missed this request.
The DeMatteis story in question seems to suggest that Darkseid is a necessary aspect of existence and thus cannot be truly destroyed for good. I do in fact think this is consistent with the portrayal of his true nature throughout the years and DC's...
I think the main problem here is that Ghost Rider will hax Superma to death. He tends to lead with some pretty nasty hax attacks like soul manipulation, and I don't think Superma has proper defenses against most of them.
Yes, the fact he seems to be targeting DC threads is also disturbing since he's admitted multiple times now that he thinks DC sucks. Most of the threads in his edit history are DC related and involve him randomly stepping in to talk about how DC is 2-C at best and "gets stomped." I find it hard...
I am not experienced in handling rule violations like this, but from my perspective, it seems quite unlikely that another warning will do any good. He has been officially warned twice now and unofficially warned many more times by various users. It seems like it should be obvious to avoid those...
I've been ignoring this, but something probably needs to be done about Supreme of the Universe. I know things can get pretty heated around here, but he keeps joining threads that include DC characters, only to talk about how DC sucks and insist the franchise is 1-C at best and top tiers like...
Guys, this thread is a mess. We keep getting interjections from people about evaluations completely unrelated to the main discussion.
Hecate is only even tagged here because Seed was saying she should scale to the actual characters he was looking to upgrade. This is not a thread about...
Dang. Planck69 finished this thread early. I've been searching for a profile he missed, but I think his list is pretty all-inclusive. Lucifer is in that tier where pretty much everybody either stomps or gets stomped. I guess that's one of the reasons we keep track of the win/loss records for 1-A...
That's not technically accurate. It's true that Superman only needed one punch to win the fight, but he was not seen throwing down again until two issues later. Historically, Superman's sundips only power him up for a limited period of time, but there wasn't really anything to suggest that he...
Right. I don't think cross-scaling Giaman and Morrison is a problem in this instance because Morrison's actions clearly suggest he knew what he was doing and was making deliberate decisions based on his knowledge of Gaiman's work, but it doesn't matter because the conclusion then involved...
While I doubt Neil Gaiman or Mike Carey originally intended to suggest that the Endless reach into other fictional narratives, that does indeed seem to be something Grant Morrison implied during his commentary about how the Overvoid represents the paper on which all fiction is drawn- other...
You're welcome.
We are done here, though. All approved changes to Hal Jorda have been added, and those looking to upgrade him further have agreed to start another thread on the topic after our move to the new forum. We have, in turn, agreed to stop tinkering with him for now so that further...
Oh? I'm sorry. I must have been mistaken. I thought that the new Fandom changes were going to be doing away with blogs in addition to these discussion areas. My bad. Obviously, if that isn't the case, then there isn't anything for us to worry about. I'll just approach him about it on his wall.
@Ant: Not a problem. I'm glad I could help! After the dust has settled, I'll do my best to look into the idea of creating a solid place in our new forum to hold an index of rejected feats.
Well, the thread has gone on for a while now, and it certainly took me some time to catch up. Perhaps Tracer could make a continuation thread focused solely on Hal Jordan's tiering after all this? That could make the arguments less buried and more accessible. As it stands, I'm relatively unclear...
@LordTracer: Don't worry. We can wait until the forum move before doing any more. It's only fair that you get a chance to make your case on a thread that won't be deleted in a few days.
Oh! Sorry. I had originally expunged the death resistance, but when my first edit glitched out and I had to repost, I forgot to erase it a second time. Fixed now.
Okay. Done. Sorry about all that. Everything is edited and accounted for. I patched in all the updated abilities and their descriptions, and I added a third key. I think Hal Jordan's tier is fine where it is, but if we plan on doing any more with it, I suggest we wait until after the forum move...
Okay. In that case, what exactly do you want me to do here? Pre/Post/Rebirth? Or just leave it as Pre/Post for now and don't add anything from Rebirth?
Anyway, we've drifted off subject a little. I can apply these revisions, but there's one last detail that needs clarification: Are we treating Post-Crisis Hal Jorda and Rebirth Hal Jorda as the same character or different characters? Because Post-Crisis is technically a different era, but some...
Yeah, I feel that. Happens to me all the time too. And hey, I'm no therapist, but maybe you should use the new free time to look for some relaxing hobbies that keep you happy. Just a suggestion. I'm not trying to be a busybody, but if I were as booked as you are, I don't think I'd be enjoying...