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  1. ClassicNESfan

    Alien X vs Bowser 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Genuine question here, but I'm new to the site and trying to figure out how Alien X's AP is calculated. If he can destroy a multiverse described as hundreds of realities splitting off "ad infinitum," doesn't that mean it's only a multiverse with hundreds of universes that is growing in number...
  2. ClassicNESfan

    Superman Existence Erasure Feats

    I think this looks legitimate, but if Ant is busy, maybe you guys should try tapping some of the other people he mentioned earlier? Surely one or two of them must have some free time to verify for the overworked admin.
  3. ClassicNESfan

    Dante vs Superman

    Based on what I know about the characters, this should be a stomp for Dante. Too many OHKO hax, and even if we just ignored them he's probably much further into 2-A than Superman is. Superman is ranked 2-A for scaling above a heavily amped version of his past self, who was only base 2-A. It's...
  4. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    Well, that's all I got. I was also going to say a thing about Kismet and the Phantom Stranger, but I'm tired now and this probably isn't the place for that anyway.
  5. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    Some Misconceptions Long ago, Kent and Inza Nelson used to be considered multiversal when working together as a single Doctor Fate. This tiering came from a battle he fought against Vandaemeon and Ynar, a renigade Lord of Chaos and Lord of Order respectively, who together supposedly threatened...
  6. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    I dunno. Fate logic. At that time in continuity, Hector and Nabu sort of took turns going into the amulent and out of the amulent to inhabit Hector's body. Sometimes they're both in there at the same time, and they can shake hands, comfort each other, slap each other, etc, but it's clear that...
  7. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    I don't think Nabu was mortal at the time Hector punched him. I could be misremembering, but I think the fight happened inside the amulent and both parties were sort of spirit beings. (I don't know how you scale that.) I also had one last post I wanted to make regarding some earlier mentioned...
  8. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    Other Fates When it comes to being Doctor Fate, Nabu and the other Lords of Order considered Eric and Linda Strauss to be a joke compared to Kent Nelso. However, even they were capable of casually creating a shield to protect from an energy burst that created universes, and later they broke...
  9. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    The Helmet of Fate As mentioned earlier, Zauriel claimed that the helmet of Fate could endanger all of creation, but here is a little more context for that statement. It should be mentioned that "all of creation" in this instance is definitely referring to the whole multiverse. In the very same...
  10. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    I do not have a problem with it myself.
  11. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    You might have a point. I'm new here, so I'm not an expert in how threads are categorized.
  12. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    This thread was not originally about changing Superman's stats, but it looks like it spiraled into that rather early and never fully recovered. Should it be closed, or should it remain open for discussion of the original subject?
  13. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    I have edited the page as requested. I only updated the Rebirth statistics to reflect the updates made to the Superman (Post-Flashpoint) page, and I boldened a couple lines that seem to have been unboldened by mistake. I left everything else alone, and I removed the "At Least" portion of his...
  14. ClassicNESfan

    Doctor Fate Revamp

    I have a few supporting scans about Doctor Fate if that might add to the discussion.
  15. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    The Superman (Post-Flashpoint) profile has already been updated. The only one waiting for an update is the Superman Prime (One Million) profile.
  16. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    Oh, I guess you're right. My bad. I missed that. This thread has just veered so far from its original subject that honestly, it should probably be closed or something, but Idk if any of us are allowed to do that.
  17. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    The problem is not the level of power. The problem is that it's being applied backwards. There is no reason to believe that the writers considered the thing on Professor Paradox's arm any more than a simple time travel device back when he called Celestialsapiens "the universe's greatest power."...
  18. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    I think your response misunderstands some very fundemental things about my reservation. The argument you're posing would make sense if Professor Paradox was a real person, the Chrono Navagator was a real thing, and the events of Ben 10 actually occured, but obviously, none of that is the case...
  19. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    Short Summary Regarding My Personal Reservations: The proposed changes involve scaling the Celestialsapiens to the Chrono Navigator, despite the fact that the two items are never directly compared. This scaling is dependant upon the fact that Professor Paradox once called Celestialsapiens "the...
  20. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    I don't think I'd consider myself an important contributor or a particularly convicted opponent to the upgrades, but I also have not been swayed to agreement yet. If someone would like me to post a TL;DR regarding my personal issues with the change, I will.
  21. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    Something being a singular being in the multiverse does not prove it is the most powerful thing in the multiverse, and it definitely doesn't prove it scales to the Chrono Navigator. The discussion about power absorbtion was not meant to imply anything about AP. It was being used as an example...
  22. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    I don't think this is a particularly great line of attack either, seeing as Professor Paradox does not necessarily need to be "above them" in order to invent something that can cause more damage than they can. Celestialsapiens have been implied to be vunerable to lower lifeforms in certain ways...
  23. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    I don't think simply having a character call the Celestialsapiens "omnipotent" after Ben Again is a good argument for scaling them to the Chrono Navigator. The term "omnipotent" is not necessarily interchangable with "the most powerful thing in the multiverse" because it is often used to mean...
  24. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    Okay. Well, your first big hurdle here is that the quote mentioning the power of the Chrono Navagator takes place in an episode written over two years after the last time Professor Paradox mentioned the power of the Celestialsapiens. If this is truly a collection of all quotes relevant to the...
  25. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    Probably, but only the Post-Flashpoint version, and I don't think it would be appropriate to keep the "At Least" portion of the tier at that point either, considering it is literally an infinite climb from 2-A to High 2-A. Granted, we have some evidence of Superman reaching similar heights over...
  26. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    That's a different Justice League from an alternate future. They aren't really related to the Justice League the Forger made. Specifically, you're looking at Big Barda, Micron, Superman, Terry McGinnis, Warhawk, Kai-Ro, and Aquagirl from left to right.
  27. ClassicNESfan

    Celestialsapien Upgrade (Scaled to Chrono Navigator)

    It is my understanding that one of the main issues here lies with the fact that Alien X is never directly compared to the Chrono Navigator. Instead we simply have quotes from the person who owns and operates the Chrono Navigator, and said quotes indicate that he reveres Alien X's power as the...
  28. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    There is also no evidence that the Mxyzptlk power up was affecting Superman at that time. First of all, he was very visibly drained to near death before receiving his solar boost. Secondly, it is unclear whether Mxyzptlk was even telling the truth about sharing his power with Superman in the...
  29. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    The editor's Tweets were also discussed in a previous thread, and it was decided by the knowledgeable members team that they were too contradictory with other Words of God as well as the actual events displayed in the comic itself to warrant a downgrade. It's still a weird feat, and I...
  30. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    Those Tweets were already discussed in a completely different thread. We are talking about Superman punching the World Forger right now, not its effects on the multiverse. In fact, this isn't even a content revision thread. The whole discussion has kind of been derailed. This was originally a...
  31. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    Btw, I'm sorry for misunderstanding your post. I thought you had a problem with the Justice League simply existing in a higher dimension. I should have realized via context that your real issue was with them seeming to run around and break things there. Duh.
  32. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    Indeed it is, but I didn't mention anything about an 8D brick. I said that you being in an 8D place would not qualify you for being 8D. The multiverse the Justice League was in, the counterparts they were fighting, and the buildings they were walking through were all explicately created to...
  33. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    They were not that strong. The "dimensions" being used in this storyline are not spatial dimensions in the traditional sense. They are governing layers of reality. This was covered in the Monitor revision thread. Existing in that realm or fighting in it does not say anything about your...
  34. ClassicNESfan

    Fans seem split on the punch Superman pulled on Forger

    This scene is specifically referring to the form World Forger made for himself after Superman punched him. He's been walking around with a body crafted from cells that allow him to enter lower planes of reality ever since Issue #25 of The Justice League. The scene referenced here is from Issue...
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